Nameless op/dp install at Ishii

[Colpup]

I was told the new universal ones are the issue... Mine was ordered in February and delivered today so I'm assuming I have the newest revision.

[Imrac]

I am really surprised at Nameless so far. I think I need to call them. They were very quick to respond at first when I reached out to them. I passed a long the photos of how close the pipe was to the cylinder head (Close enough a feeler gauge was barely able to get in between). The ask a couple questions regarding my exhaust setup as I also have an after market header. I told them I didn't test fit with my OE manifold, but they still gave me a return label.

At that point the pipe was still on my car (Left it on for a couple of days). I took it back to Ishii Motors (Which, btw were very kind to me and didn't pull any punches) to have it taken back off, but I also had them test fit the OE.

There was a little bit more clearance with the OE manifold, about 1/16th of an inch. I had them take more photos which I sent back to nameless clarifying with them if they believed this was an acceptable distance with the OE manifold. I didn't want to send out the pipe and have them come back saying it was fine and me paying the shipping back.

But I haven't heard back from them since. I followed up with a couple more emails, but nothing. I realize they are a small shop, and probably don't check their email often. I have been lazy/busy/forgetful to give them a ring.

I believe they are a reputable brand, I have heard nothing but good things for them, and I believe they will take care of me. Just a little frustrating is all.

BTW, this is with the universal one.

[Colpup]

I'll let you know next Wednesday when Ishii is going to attempt to install mine. Right now though it appears me and @Imrac are in the same boat. Kinda sucks I have to deal with this after waiting months for the pipe.

[NickFRS]

Shop sounds ignorant to me. The nameless OP/DP combo is almost the same as the OEM just slightly larger and obviously smoother curves.. All exhausts are close to the engine. You can have it coated or wrapped if you are concerned about heat. Brandon has mine now. I had no issues. The install is just kinda a pain in the ass since you have to lift the engine slightly. A inch away from the engine isn't going to do much when we are talking about exhaust temps right out of the header into a collected pipe. There will be LOTS of heat there no matter what. One inch will not disperse much heat.

[Imrac]

Originally Posted by NickFRS

Shop sounds ignorant to me. The nameless OP/DP combo is almost the same as the OEM just slightly larger and obviously smoother curves.. All exhausts are close to the engine. You can have it coated or wrapped if you are concerned about heat. Brandon has mine now. I had no issues. The install is just kinda a pain in the ass since you have to lift the engine slightly. A inch away from the engine isn't going to do much when we are talking about exhaust temps right out of the header into a collected pipe. There will be LOTS of heat there no matter what. One inch will not disperse much heat.

What revision did you have? Was it the transmission specific version?

I am not concerned about heat at all. I am NA, so the back pressure is low enough it should be moving the hot gasses out fast enough it shouldn't get insanely hot. I am concerned about the pipe hitting the cylinder head and damaging either the cylinder head or punching a hole in the pipe.

A wrap wouldn't even be able to fit between the pipe and the cylinder head.

As for the shop sounding ignorant.. I beg to differ. There is not much movement you can do when the front pipe is connected to a fixed hanger at the rear and the collector at the front. They loosened up both (as well as the header) and tried to get as much clearance as possible, but the photos attached are the best they could get.

The Digi photos are with the OE manifold (grainier), the regular IMG photos are with my JDL UEL header.

[Drift-Office]

Originally Posted by Yamaha_R6

I will probably swap out for a Motiv overpipe and Invidia frontpipe in the future.

Negative on that OP ghost rider!


Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

[Yamaha_R6]

Originally Posted by Drift-Office

Negative on that OP ghost rider!


Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

Yo Bob @Drift-Office, I'm waiting for my JDL EL to come in. I'll need a tune from you soon!

[stockysnail]

Originally Posted by Imrac

I am really surprised at Nameless so far. I think I need to call them. They were very quick to respond at first when I reached out to them. I passed a long the photos of how close the pipe was to the cylinder head (Close enough a feeler gauge was barely able to get in between). The ask a couple questions regarding my exhaust setup as I also have an after market header. I told them I didn't test fit with my OE manifold, but they still gave me a return label.

At that point the pipe was still on my car (Left it on for a couple of days). I took it back to Ishii Motors (Which, btw were very kind to me and didn't pull any punches) to have it taken back off, but I also had them test fit the OE.

There was a little bit more clearance with the OE manifold, about 1/16th of an inch. I had them take more photos which I sent back to nameless clarifying with them if they believed this was an acceptable distance with the OE manifold. I didn't want to send out the pipe and have them come back saying it was fine and me paying the shipping back.

But I haven't heard back from them since. I followed up with a couple more emails, but nothing. I realize they are a small shop, and probably don't check their email often. I have been lazy/busy/forgetful to give them a ring.

I believe they are a reputable brand, I have heard nothing but good things for them, and I believe they will take care of me. Just a little frustrating is all.

BTW, this is with the universal one.

Call them. Sometimes they are slow with email since they are so busy. I have one of the original op/dp. It is specific to manual trans cars (not the factory fit model). If you have the auto trans car you'll need the factory fit model, unless they've changed stuff since I last looked at their website and the pipe.

[Imrac]

Originally Posted by stockysnail

Call them. Sometimes they are slow with email since they are so busy. I have one of the original op/dp. It is specific to manual trans cars (not the factory fit model). If you have the auto trans car you'll need the factory fit model, unless they've changed stuff since I last looked at their website and the pipe.

Yeah, I am going to reach out to them Monday via phone. The op/dp did change. There use to be a Manual transmission version and a Automatic transmission version. Now they have a single "Universal" one that fits both transmissions, which I what I purchased.

I have a manual car, but the fitment issues were observed on an automatic transmission as well.

I am not bashing nameless at all. I know not everything works out perfect with aftermarket parts and I believe nameless will take care of me. I am just explaining why Ishii would be hesitant to install this pipe since they have had a couple cars with fitment issues.

[NickFRS]

Originally Posted by Imrac

What revision did you have? Was it the transmission specific version?

I am not concerned about heat at all. I am NA, so the back pressure is low enough it should be moving the hot gasses out fast enough it shouldn't get insanely hot. I am concerned about the pipe hitting the cylinder head and damaging either the cylinder head or punching a hole in the pipe.

A wrap wouldn't even be able to fit between the pipe and the cylinder head.

As for the shop sounding ignorant.. I beg to differ. There is not much movement you can do when the front pipe is connected to a fixed hanger at the rear and the collector at the front. They loosened up both (as well as the header) and tried to get as much clearance as possible, but the photos attached are the best they could get.

The Digi photos are with the OE manifold (grainier), the regular IMG photos are with my JDL UEL header.

I got mine a year ago. That looks way to close then how it should be. Even their 3in doesn't come that close. Do you have the front pipe screwed in? which header do you have? Make sure you screw the FP into the screw point. Chances are your AM header is pulling the FP over. or maybe you got a defective FP. Put the FP in w.o it on the header. Screw it into the mount point w/the axelback. Also if you need to move around your mid pipe a bit. There are multiple mounting points that could alter the FP located.

Originally Posted by Imrac

Yeah, I am going to reach out to them Monday via phone. The op/dp did change. There use to be a Manual transmission version and a Automatic transmission version. Now they have a single "Universal" one that fits both transmissions, which I what I purchased.

I have a manual car, but the fitment issues were observed on an automatic transmission as well.

I am not bashing nameless at all. I know not everything works out perfect with aftermarket parts and I believe nameless will take care of me. I am just explaining why Ishii would be hesitant to install this pipe since they have had a couple cars with fitment issues.

You should be abe to stick a flat head screw driver inbetween them. Also do you have stock motor mounts? Make sure your motor mounts are on straight. Some AM motor mounts will actually lower your engine slightly.

[Decay107]

Originally Posted by NickFRS

You should be abe to stick a flat head screw driver inbetween them. Also do you have stock motor mounts? Make sure your motor mounts are on straight. Some AM motor mounts will actually lower your engine slightly.

Motor mounts will not affect clearance between the top of the pipe and the head, it is hard mounted to the header which is hard mounted to the block. Now if it were a clearance issue with the bottom of the pipe and the sub frame that would be another matter...

[NickFRS]

Originally Posted by Decay107

Motor mounts will not affect clearance between the top of the pipe and the head, it is hard mounted to the header which is hard mounted to the block. Now if it were a clearance issue with the bottom of the pipe and the sub frame that would be another matter...

Which is also why I brought up having the FP screwed into the center mounting point. Just some variables.

[Decay107]

Originally Posted by NickFRS

Which is also why I brought up having the FP screwed into the center mounting point. Just some variables.

Hmm, now I need to go back and take a look. I thought the center mount was attached to the transmission side of the transmission mount to move all forces back into the spring bolt/donut gasket connection. Didn't look too closely though.

[Colpup]

Im at Ishii now.. I elected to not install the op/dp. They said they have had numerous people with this issue and they have had a couple people come back in and take them off after install because of how close it is to the cylinder head. When i get home i guess ill try and talk to nameless and see what if anything they can do. Atleast I'm getting the axleback put on. That should tide me over until i get the op/dp figured out. They also said that with the automatic it is even worse fitment wise.