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Old 04-09-2014, 06:48 PM   #29
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I was thinking more for CSG's personal track usage, since most of the other brands tend to creep randomly.
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I was thinking more for CSG's personal track usage, since most of the other brands tend to creep randomly.
We're not hiding anything from anyone with an ultra secret spec setup. We build our cars with selected parts off the shelf and show what happens what a balanced setup can do. Each item on our car has been purchased out of pocket and tested. SPL hasn't creeped at all yet.
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I was thinking about doing my own; the only daunting part is everything must be perfectly aligned when you set the first welds. I'll probably pass on making LCAs, but I should be able to make all the underbody bracing pretty easily, and much cheaper than the brand name versions are sold for.
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I was thinking about doing my own; the only daunting part is everything must be perfectly aligned when you set the first welds. I'll probably pass on making LCAs, but I should be able to make all the underbody bracing pretty easily, and much cheaper than the brand name versions are sold for.
Wouldn't waste too much time on bracing unless you need to add weight to your car for specific race group just to add additional weight to the base of the car...
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Really? I'd have thought it would have a decent effect on chassis stiffness. That's how they're marketed, at least.
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Really? I'd have thought it would have a decent effect on chassis stiffness. That's how they're marketed, at least.
The chassis is good from the factory, spend time on track to extract the most of the car utilizing your driving techniques. It'll eventually show that alignment is a crucial piece to the equation for better performance.
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Man I don't want to install my SPC LCAs now after reading this but ill be stuck with nothing if I don't since I wont be able to get another LCA here for the weekend install...

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Man I don't want to install my SPC LCAs now after reading this but ill be stuck with nothing if I don't since I wont be able to get another LCA here for the weekend install...

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What is your intended application/use? What is your driving experience level? What modifications have you done? What tires will you be using?
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What is your intended application/use? What is your driving experience level? What modifications have you done? What tires will you be using?
Mostly daily driving, but I also intend to compete in at least 10 STX events for solo 2 this year and one or two lapping days at a road course. Car is also driven year round in heavy snow and rain sadly. I have done plenty of carting, auto x in other vehicles I have owned and a few lapping days in various vehicles, but I am no expert by any means. I have Raceseng camber/caster plates, Bilstein sport series shocks, RCE Yellow springs, and Eibach sway bars and will be sitting on 16x7 Volk TE37 wheels with 225/50/16 Hankook RS-3s.

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Mostly daily driving, but I also intend to compete in at least 10 STX events for solo 2 this year and one or two lapping days at a road course. Car is also driven year round in heavy snow and rain sadly. I have done plenty of carting, auto x in other vehicles I have owned and a few lapping days in various vehicles, but I am no expert by any means. I have Raceseng camber/caster plates, Bilstein sport series shocks, RCE Yellow springs, and Eibach sway bars and will be sitting on 16x7 Volk TE37 wheels with 225/50/16 Hankook RS-3s.
If you have the SPC LCA, just run it. Check the LCA after every event to make sure it's still tight. You might want to check alignment settings every couple events to make sure it's still good. Your tires aren't R-comp or slicks status so that should reduce some potential failure. In your localized setting, a snapped LCA won't pose a danger issue to yourself or people around you since your average speed isn't very high.
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If you have the SPC LCA, just run it. Check the LCA after every event to make sure it's still tight. You might want to check alignment settings every couple events to make sure it's still good. Your tires aren't R-comp or slicks status so that should reduce some potential failure. In your localized setting, a snapped LCA won't pose a danger issue to yourself or people around you since your average speed isn't very high.
Thanks for more great info CSG!

The damage to the car would suck though. Piece of mind is worth a lot to me, I think if I needed that much rear camber I'd sell the SPC's based on this thread.

About the creep, I'd suspect it's the aluminum that's creeping.

What's your opinion on slotting the stock arms? I know it was said sarcastically, but I've actually been considering it for some time. I like that the stock arms are cheap, strong enough for anything I'm going do to with them, yet weak enough that they'll sacrifice themselves before the car bends. I was really hoping to run the whiteline LCA adjustment bushing, but they stopped making them and I can't find them anywhere. Actually, I didn't pm you guys, @CSG Mike, is there any chance you guys have a set in stock? Shoot me a PM if you do, please.
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Really? I'd have thought it would have a decent effect on chassis stiffness. That's how they're marketed, at least.
Someone at the manufacturer end will get fired, if a little 2lb brace made a substantial difference on a chassis that weighs 600+ lbs.
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Someone at the manufacturer end will get fired, if a little 2lb brace made a substantial difference on a chassis that weighs 600+ lbs.
A fair point. In that case I won't bother with them.
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A fair point. In that case I won't bother with them.
On the other hand, there are braces used to bind bushings, which may have a substantial effect
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