PSA: ACT vs EXEDY street clutches

[w00t692]

Originally Posted by industrial

Not being able to explain why you were not able to engage 1st gear is really killing your cred. PRE took it apart and found nothing wrong at all? That tells me that more than likely there was some kind of install error if the problem was something as drastic as not being able to engage a gear but nothing seemed amiss when disassembled. Especially considering that you were having issues from the very beginning but did not bother to take it to a professional. I'd guess you messed up the install, the shop found the error but said nothing and happily installed the new part.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around how a clutch and flywheel could prevent the engagement of 1st gear. Care to explain?

Or it was a faulty pressure plate, which don't show their face without testing them on a machine, or it had improper geometry which doesn't show it's face without knowing exactly oem specs and measuring against them.

Why are people so quick to blame some dude having issues. The DSM epidemic of crankwalk was mostly caused by the popularity of a very heavy pressure plate they ran very often by none other than ACT.

[evan]

Originally Posted by w00t692

Why are people so quick to blame some dude having issues.

Simple: it's easy for people to sit behind a keyboard and talk shit.

[evan]

Originally Posted by industrial

Not being able to explain why you were not able to engage 1st gear is really killing your cred. PRE took it apart and found nothing wrong at all? That tells me that more than likely there was some kind of install error if the problem was something as drastic as not being able to engage a gear but nothing seemed amiss when disassembled. Especially considering that you were having issues from the very beginning but did not bother to take it to a professional. I'd guess you messed up the install, the shop found the error but said nothing and happily installed the new part.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around how a clutch and flywheel could prevent the engagement of 1st gear. Care to explain?

PRE did the install of the ACT clutch. Why would you assume that I installed it without asking? They also disassembled it but found no problem. That doesn't mean there isn't a problem. Just not something verifiable by the naked eye. Even PRE thinks the ACT clutches are problematic. ACT wants the PP to test it. That should explain enough.

PRE also installed the new EXEDY. I never waited to have a professional look at it. It was looked at from day 2 but the problem has been very sporadic only getting worse over time.

Btw: my credibility is perfectly fine. Thank you very much.

[industrial]

Originally Posted by evan

Simple: it's easy for people to sit behind a keyboard and talk shit.

Well, you are the one that started with the attitude. I know how mechanical things work and when something is malfunctioning like you described, there usually is some obvious culprit. Some signs that something was amiss. The fact that you drove your car for a year while it was messed up says alot about your rodeo experience.

Your story is missing something and you are shilling for exedy now with about 0 practical experience with the product. You just switch out the clutch and have fixed a problem that was existed since day 1 with the other clutch which was probably user error. Or it could've been a faulty product but why drive around for a full year on it??? Something just doesn't make sense.

It's like people that replace worn out tires with new tires and exclaim they are the best ever after driving a few on ramps at 4/10s.

[evan]

Originally Posted by industrial

Or I know how parts work and when something is malfunctioning like you described, there usually is some obvious culprit. Some signs that something was amiss. The fact that you drove your car for a year while it was messed up says alot.

Your story is missing something and you are shilling for exedy now with about 0 practical experience with the product. You just switch out the clutch and have fixed a problem that was existed since day 1 with the other clutch which was probably user error. Or it could've been a faulty product but why drive around for a full year on it??? Something just doesn't make sense.

It's like people that replace worn out tires with new tires and exclaim they are the best ever after driving a few on ramps at 4/10s.

Not trying to work you up. Just giving the community information. What you do with it is up to you. I thought that's what contributions are all about. Embedding my opinion in the data is normal human behavior. Have a nice day.

[industrial]

Originally Posted by evan

Not trying to work you up. Just giving the community information. What you do with it is up to you. I thought that's what contributions are all about. Embedding my opinion in the data is normal human behavior. Have a nice day.

Then give us good information. Find out what failed or went wrong. You should get a job with Malaysian Airlines.

"I had this part, it always worked funny then a year later my car was messed up. A shop took the part off and everything looked great! I installed another part from Brand X and my car is much more better! Conclusion, Brand X is much more better!"

[Reaper]

Can someone link a crankwalk issue related to an act clutch. Id like to see that

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[evan]

Originally Posted by industrial

Then give us good information. Find out what failed or went wrong. You should get a job with Malaysian Airlines.

When ACT tests the PP, you will get an answer. FYI, everybody I have talked to personally (in person) never has anything good to say about ACT. There is usually a reason for that. I don't need a job with Malaysia Airlines and to make fun of such a tragic thing is not nice.

[w00t692]

Originally Posted by industrial

Then give us good information. Find out what failed or went wrong. You should get a job with Malaysian Airlines.

"I had this part, it always worked funny then a year later my car was messed up. A shop took the part off and everything looked great! I installed another part from Brand X and my car is much more better! Conclusion, Brand X is much more better!"

It is NOT his place to have to pay for things just to give you a warm and fuzzy feeling inside.

At this point "x worked like shit, y worked perfectly" should suffice.

[w00t692]

Originally Posted by Reaper

Can someone link a crankwalk issue related to an act clutch. Id like to see that

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http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/clutc...ure-plate.html

[kiichiro]

Originally Posted by w00t692

ACT clutches are responsible for all sorts of crank walk scenarios on multiple different engines as well. They're trash and i'd NEVER recommend an ACT clutch to anyone ever.

Exedy has always been a quality manufacturer and they make a LOT of different OEM clutches.

Act street light works great on my 300+hp brz, installed by azfa20
Works like a charm

[industrial]

Originally Posted by w00t692

It is NOT his place to have to pay for things just to give you a warm and fuzzy feeling inside.

At this point "x worked like shit, y worked perfectly" should suffice.

I'm not the one issuing PSAs on shitty evidence.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by industrial

I'm not the one issuing PSAs on shitty evidence.

What kind of evidence are you expecting? Just because there isn't a glaring fault that doesn't mean the clutch isn't defective. If the pressure plate is just slightly misaligned it could prevent the clutch from disengaging properly, but without very precise measurements and a good one to compare to you'd NEVER spot it. It would only take a mm or two to make the difference from a perfectly good clutch to one that doesn't disengage nearly enough.

The fact that ACT wants the parts back should be enough evidence alone.

[industrial]

Originally Posted by wparsons

What kind of evidence are you expecting? Just because there isn't a glaring fault that doesn't mean the clutch isn't defective. If the pressure plate is just slightly misaligned it could prevent the clutch from disengaging properly, but without very precise measurements and a good one to compare to you'd NEVER spot it. It would only take a mm or two to make the difference from a perfectly good clutch to one that doesn't disengage nearly enough.

The fact that ACT wants the parts back should be enough evidence alone.

The fact that ACT wants the clutch back means what? They want to see what/if anything is wrong before they warranty a part after the OP shit all over them prematurely to the world. That sounds absolutely reasonable to me. I would've at least waited to see if ACT would be scumbags or if they found something wrong before blowing it all over the internet like its a scientifically proven fact.

People today are so quick to speak out. What happened to critical thinking? The scientific process? This forum (to be fair, most forums) reminds me of idiotcracy more often than not. I'm not calling anyone an idiot but it's just the anti-intellectual, mob mentality that exists.

How about some hard facts of what went wrong before making a big deal about ACT. Is that SOOO much to ask? As an owner of their products, I'd really want to know if there is something to watch out for.

The stuff from 8th gen is interesting but not really applicable since it's a different problem specific to HD PPs on that platform.