FR-S Price Poll: Are you still in, or are you out?

[Exhaust]

I think people need to quit bitching about price and just move on TBH. You get quality if your willing to pay for it, and if you want performance go out and buy something else because your in the wrong forums.

TL;DR posted everything everyone else has said.

Buying the raven FRS and come hell or high water nothing is going to change my mind.

[Bang Uchiha]

Originally Posted by Spd229

Fortunately the rep that I'm working with and have been talking to since February is a pretty stand up guy. He gave me the same first come explanation and told me there would be no mark up and that the estimated price of $26,030 would be right on or slightly high (for an auto).

Not only that, I was actually treated with respect, versus being tossed around like the dealership that wanted the non refundable deposit and markup.....night and day between those two dealerships.

Generally it seems the dealerships in my area know nothing about the cars, not even the colors. The price and pre-order situation was confirmed just friday in my area.

How are they adding markup? It's a Scion with pure pricing.

The only markup thing they can TRY to do is add aftermarket/dealer install rims, spoiler, leather etc and mark those accessories up.

Nonrefundable? that's crazy. The person you talked to either was super new or a sleezeball.

[glorydays]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

A used ANYTHING will be more worth it than a NEW car......

cmon people use your heads here.....

Not seeing your logic.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Bang Uchiha

How are they adding markup? It's a Scion with pure pricing.

The only markup thing they can TRY to do is add aftermarket/dealer install rims, spoiler, leather etc and mark those accessories up.

Nonrefundable? that's crazy. The person you talked to either was super new or a sleezeball.

I'm no expert but if you read the details on Pure Pricing, it means a single dealer must charge everyone the same price. They also must be consistent with the pricing on the Dealer's website (not Scion corporate's) any in-dealer boards, or the price posted on the car.

There is nothing that says the dealer can't charge more than MSRP, less than MSRP or even change the price day to day, as long as they change it the same way in every published dealer location and charge everyone the published price.

[Exhaust]

Originally Posted by glorydays

Not seeing your logic.

His world ..

[glorydays]

Originally Posted by zAnSh1n

+1... and it's a chick car

You do realize that a SCION is gonna be the go to car for all parents buying first vehicles for their hs/college daughter...

[Matador]

Originally Posted by glorydays

You do realize that a SCION is gonna be the go to car for all parents buying first vehicles for their hs/college daughter...

vs a $19k tC ?

Fat chance.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by glorydays

You do realize that a SCION is gonna be the go to car for all parents buying first vehicles for their hs/college daughter...

Doesn't seem like a very practical car that a parent would buy for their HS/college child.

[Spd229]

Originally Posted by Bang Uchiha

How are they adding markup? It's a Scion with pure pricing.

The only markup thing they can TRY to do is add aftermarket/dealer install rims, spoiler, leather etc and mark those accessories up.

Nonrefundable? that's crazy. The person you talked to either was super new or a sleezeball.

They're pretty awful in general as far as that entire dealership goes, yet to have or hear of someone having a good experience there. Doesn't surprise me one bit about the markup, the non-refundable deposit was a bit of a surprise however.

Unfortunately, it's as Dadhawk says. It's whatever they advertise. Now if someone ends up going there and getting the same deal sans a markup / non-refundable deposit....can be sure I'd be pissed. Granted, given that no dealership has a posted price anywhere.....it's free reign to screw us as they please it seems.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Bang Uchiha

How are they adding markup? It's a Scion with pure pricing.

You should read up a little more on the pure pricing concept. We have discussed it extensively in the past on here.

Here is a previous thread on the topic:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2910

[zAnSh1n]

Originally Posted by glorydays

You do realize that a SCION is gonna be the go to car for all parents buying first vehicles for their hs/college daughter...

the fr-s??? i think not ;]

[Mango22]

I'm still in, but waiting for the BRZ pricing before I decide which model I'll get.

[Exhaust]

Originally Posted by zAnSh1n

the fr-s??? i think not ;]

god forbid we get drag challenged at a stop light by a kid in a BRZ/FRS

[Bang Uchiha]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

I'm no expert but if you read the details on Pure Pricing, it means a single dealer must charge everyone the same price. They also must be consistent with the pricing on the Dealer's website (not Scion corporate's) any in-dealer boards, or the price posted on the car.

There is nothing that says the dealer can't charge more than MSRP, less than MSRP or even change the price day to day, as long as they change it the same way in every published dealer location and charge everyone the published price.

You just defined Pure Pricing with your link. The page means they can't mark up the car just cuz they think your a smuck, for example $2000 when the sticker is $25,432. Or even Discount it. Yes of course they can change the price and it needs to be the same price in all dealers.

The don't say it word for word but that is what it infers, they got the idea from Saturn when they were still out.

So haggling and shopping dealer to dealer prices are eliminated.
(But looking through inventory or waiting for your custom car to be built is not.)
Vs Toyota's model that is traditional, haggle with the dealer to try to get close or below invoice.

(I sold for Toyota and Scion) You can report them to toyota coroprate if they do otherwise and they get a strike and more training. Each employee needs to be scion certified with each model to be able to sell it.