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HRTROB · 03-24-2014, 02:32 PM

Kinda off topic, but is there some other oil gallery port in the engine aside from the one right beside the AC compressor? I already have my oil pressure gauge hooked up to that port, and I'd like to run an oil temp gauge as well.

XanRules · 03-24-2014, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

AFR/boost combo gauge, then oil pressure and/or temperature.

seconding this.

mrk1 · 03-24-2014, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mines13

When this goes in to production in the next couple of months it will be an excellent option. AFR, Boost (up to 44psi), boost control, boost cut by RPM and/or AFR, programmable shift light, and 0-5v analog output for AFR. You can also log solenoid duty cycle, manifold pressure, AFR and engine RPM to your laptop or iPhone provided you use it in conjunction with the OT2 device. You can also daisy chain this device with our other MTX-D series gauges to also log your oil pressure, oil temp temperature, etc. A ton of functions for a single gauge.

OBD2 or dedicated sensors? Im really not a fan of reading off the obd

mike the snake · 03-24-2014, 02:50 PM

I'm not sure why the PLX gauge isn't used more. It can operate off your OBD port, and/or uses it's own sensor modules, and can display every parameter needed.

I'm getting oil temp, oil pressure, boost, coolant temp, and can add AFR, EGT, fuel pressure, and read all of these by simply pushing one button and scrolling through.

The only disadvantage to multiple gauges is it only displays one thing at a time.

I plan to leave it on boost or oil temp, and check the other values periodically.

mines13 · 03-24-2014, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Logging from ODBII port?

No, this product does not require an OBD2 interface. It will ship with a custom spec solenoid, 4BAR map sensor, and a WB02 sensor. You can optionally use it in conjunction with our WiFi OBD2 device, the OT2 but it is not required. As mentioned you can also chain it with other Innovate devices to log via the OT2 to your WiFi enabled Apple device, our PL-1 SD card logger or directly to a laptop.

King Tut · 03-24-2014, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HRTROB

Kinda off topic, but is there some other oil gallery port in the engine aside from the one right beside the AC compressor? I already have my oil pressure gauge hooked up to that port, and I'd like to run an oil temp gauge as well.

The two popular ones are to tee off of the OEM low oil pressure sensor on the front driver side of the engine or get a fitting to replace the large plug on top of the engine below where the intake enters the throttle body:

http://www.rallysportdirect.com/Suba...il-Galley-Plug

With oil temp gauges you really have to be careful that you are reading the temp of the oil and not the temp of the fitting or metal. I normally like seeing those in the oil pan.

mrk1 · 03-24-2014, 03:48 PM

I'm about to put my temp sensor in the pan, I don't like how it fits in the sandwich plate.

HRTROB · 03-24-2014, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut

The two popular ones are to tee off of the OEM low oil pressure sensor on the front driver side of the engine or get a fitting to replace the large plug on top of the engine below where the intake enters the throttle body:

http://www.rallysportdirect.com/Suba...il-Galley-Plug

With oil temp gauges you really have to be careful that you are reading the temp of the oil and not the temp of the fitting or metal. I normally like seeing those in the oil pan.

Thanks for the info! I already have that oem Subaru oil gallery plug hooked up to my oil pressure gauge. I'm having a hard time looking for a decent fitting to tee off the stock oil pressure sensor. I've only seen brass ones which are said to be weak. I know I could use an oil filter sandwich plate, but I'm already running one for my oil cooler and I don't want to stack another one

King Tut · 03-24-2014, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HRTROB

Thanks for the info! I already have that oem Subaru oil gallery plug hooked up to my oil pressure gauge. I'm having a hard time looking for a decent fitting to tee off the stock oil pressure sensor. I've only seen brass ones which are said to be weak. I know I could use an oil filter sandwich plate, but I'm already running one for my oil cooler and I don't want to stack another one

I think drilling and welding a fitting to your oil pan would be a good option or an aftermarket oil pan with a fitting already installed would be a better option.

mrk1 · 03-24-2014, 04:47 PM

An inline sensor manifold is another option, mount this on the hot side going to the cooler. Preferably as close to the motor as possible.

Im trying to reduce the amount of Tee's and adapters needed since every connection is a possible leak.

King Tut · 03-24-2014, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mrk1

An inline sensor manifold is another option, mount this on the hot side going to the cooler. Preferably as close to the motor as possible.

Im trying to reduce the amount of Tee's and adapters needed since every connection is a possible leak.

Never seen one like that. Great idea since he is running an oil cooler.

Calum · 03-24-2014, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mines13

No, this product does not require an OBD2 interface. It will ship with a custom spec solenoid, 4BAR map sensor, and a WB02 sensor. You can optionally use it in conjunction with our WiFi OBD2 device, the OT2 but it is not required. As mentioned you can also chain it with other Innovate devices to log via the OT2 to your WiFi enabled Apple device, our PL-1 SD card logger or directly to a laptop.

You should make a sensor that can replace the factory oil pressure sensor, giving two outputs, one to your gauges and another to the cambus simulating the factory sensor. Make an oil temp gauge that can do the same and you'd completely eliminate the need for all these T's.

diss7 · 03-24-2014, 08:25 PM

Personally I think gauges now a day are pointless.

Set your ecu to not allow certain parameters and let it do its job.

An ecu can react much faster than you can, thats if you're even looking at the gauge when something goes wrong.

OjiGeorge · 03-26-2014, 02:30 AM

^^in worst-case, absolutely, fail-safes are awesome. One of the pluses for having gauges as well is that it's comforting having something there so you can have an idea of how things are running without having to log things to review later. Also helps you learn your car, and the state it is likely to be in, in a given situation. Constantly logging and reviewing is a pita.

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mrk1 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: Sterling BRZ Ltd Location: New England Posts: 1,702 Thanks: 403 Thanked 1,389 Times in 671 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	An inline sensor manifold is another option, mount this on the hot side going to the cooler. Preferably as close to the motor as possible. Im trying to reduce the amount of Tee's and adapters needed since every connection is a possible leak. __________________ The Build Thread GT28RS - eBoost2 - 3.91 Final Drive - Supra LSD

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HRTROB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: Toyota 86 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 458 Thanks: 144 Thanked 271 Times in 140 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Kinda off topic, but is there some other oil gallery port in the engine aside from the one right beside the AC compressor? I already have my oil pressure gauge hooked up to that port, and I'd like to run an oil temp gauge as well.

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mike the snake Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ Location: Norcal Posts: 1,592 Thanks: 1 Thanked 623 Times in 378 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm not sure why the PLX gauge isn't used more. It can operate off your OBD port, and/or uses it's own sensor modules, and can display every parameter needed. I'm getting oil temp, oil pressure, boost, coolant temp, and can add AFR, EGT, fuel pressure, and read all of these by simply pushing one button and scrolling through. The only disadvantage to multiple gauges is it only displays one thing at a time. I plan to leave it on boost or oil temp, and check the other values periodically.

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diss7 Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: AE86, 2x GT86, TE27 Location: Christchurch NZ Posts: 1,478 Thanks: 826 Thanked 1,181 Times in 522 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Personally I think gauges now a day are pointless. Set your ecu to not allow certain parameters and let it do its job. An ecu can react much faster than you can, thats if you're even looking at the gauge when something goes wrong.

03-26-2014, 02:30 AM	#28
OjiGeorge Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: White 2013 FRS Location: Langley, BC Posts: 450 Thanks: 441 Thanked 146 Times in 92 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^^in worst-case, absolutely, fail-safes are awesome. One of the pluses for having gauges as well is that it's comforting having something there so you can have an idea of how things are running without having to log things to review later. Also helps you learn your car, and the state it is likely to be in, in a given situation. Constantly logging and reviewing is a pita.

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