Engine idle chirping (cricket) noise poll. - Page 276 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

mwjcyber · 03-21-2014, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by T-Rex

For those who've had their fuel pumps replaced, have you noticed the car is substantially more sluggish afterwards? I had mine replaced on Tuesday, and it threw a CEL yesterday for a large emission evap leak, amongst other things. It was stumbling and breaking up, but the dealer said it was just a loose hose, and that it's fixed now. However, driving it last night and this morning, it is extremely sluggish to rev, and feels almost like a vacuum leak. Does the ECU have to re-learn and adapt, or is this symptomatic of a vac leak? Thanks!

You have a problem, that's not normal.

T-Rex · 03-21-2014, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mwjcyber

You have a problem, that's not normal.

Thank you! To clarify, I have already brought it back once (yesterday) after receiving the Evap Emissions error codes, which the dealer cleared and then told me were the result of a leaky hose (which they claim to have fixed).

Today though, the car drives noticeably worse than before the pump was replaced, and isn't throwing a code or light. It's especially bad on throttle tip-in - I've almost stalled three times, and had to stab the throttle to keep it alive. This thing is going back tomorrow.

JonAvalon · 03-22-2014, 09:30 PM

It was nice while it lasted, after 2,700 miles they have returned

Apex_BRZ · 03-22-2014, 09:43 PM

Has anyone determined whether or not this is actually a PROBLEM rather than just a NOISE?

Mine does it, of course, but I've just been ignoring it. Car feels fine. Noise can be a bit irritating, but it only does it at idle so I'm not sure I honestly care as long as it isn't actually hurting anything.

Deathalo · 03-23-2014, 03:39 AM

I don't think it's just a noise. My BRZ, bought in late Oct. has almost 4k miles and the crickets are now so bad that not only can I hear them inside my car idling when the radio is mid-volume, I can hear them outside of my car standing over 20 feet away with other idling cars, IT'S FUCKING EMBARRASSING, and really starting to piss me off. Will go to the dealer for a fix but not sure if they actually have a legitimate one yet...

k.houan · 03-23-2014, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Deathalo

I don't think it's just a noise. My BRZ, bought in late Oct. has almost 4k miles and the crickets are now so bad that not only can I hear them inside my car idling when the radio is mid-volume, I can hear them outside of my car standing over 20 feet away with other idling cars, IT'S FUCKING EMBARRASSING, and really starting to piss me off. Will go to the dealer for a fix but not sure if they actually have a legitimate one yet...

I bought mine in January and have 3600 miles on it. Haven't heard a chirp since I bought it. Been using strictly Chevron from say one.

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k.houan · 03-23-2014, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by k.houan

I bought mine in January and have 3600 miles on it. Haven't heard a chirp since I bought it. Been using strictly Chevron 91 from day one.

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Apex_BRZ · 03-23-2014, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by k.houan

I bought mine in January and have 3600 miles on it. Haven't heard a chirp since I bought it. Been using strictly Chevron from say one.

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Mine didn't start until a little after 4k miles. It has 10k now.

SlinkyAvalanche · 03-23-2014, 05:40 PM

Mine has it at ~650 miles :/. Shell 93 only

HunterGreene · 03-24-2014, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Apex_BRZ

Has anyone determined whether or not this is actually a PROBLEM rather than just a NOISE?

Mine does it, of course, but I've just been ignoring it. Car feels fine. Noise can be a bit irritating, but it only does it at idle so I'm not sure I honestly care as long as it isn't actually hurting anything.

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Originally Posted by Deathalo

I don't think it's just a noise. My BRZ, bought in late Oct. has almost 4k miles and the crickets are now so bad that not only can I hear them inside my car idling when the radio is mid-volume, I can hear them outside of my car standing over 20 feet away with other idling cars, IT'S FUCKING EMBARRASSING, and really starting to piss me off. Will go to the dealer for a fix but not sure if they actually have a legitimate one yet...

16xxx miles on mine now, and while the chirps still show up occasionally, they seem to be fading. Still on the original pump. Seems to be just a noise to me, and nobody has had an issue directly related to the chirping (one owner had his car go up in flames after an improper fix, but that was just a sh*tty job by the service tech).

@Deathalo, are you still on your first pump? I'd say go ahead and get a new one, see if its any better. I would think you are going to have some issues getting Subaru to replace it, though. Word of mouth is that Subbie dealerships are declaring the noise "normal."

Muskokan · 03-24-2014, 10:48 AM

It's been pretty long since that oct revision, think they are throwing in the towel?

Deathalo · 03-24-2014, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by HunterGreene

16xxx miles on mine now, and while the chirps still show up occasionally, they seem to be fading. Still on the original pump. Seems to be just a noise to me, and nobody has had an issue directly related to the chirping (one owner had his car go up in flames after an improper fix, but that was just a sh*tty job by the service tech).

@Deathalo, are you still on your first pump? I'd say go ahead and get a new one, see if its any better. I would think you are going to have some issues getting Subaru to replace it, though. Word of mouth is that Subbie dealerships are declaring the noise "normal."

Still on the first pump, was kinda for people who got theirs replaced to hit 3k-4k, but I haven't really heard any definitive results. I will probably get it replaced soon though, and I'm sure I can convince the techs to do it, considering I have evidence that other dealers have done it for other owners and I have the TSB showing a new part exists.

KPR10 · 03-24-2014, 11:28 AM

No crickets, 15,000 kms and I have only filled up with Shell v-Power 91, no ethanol.

smg1138 · 03-24-2014, 01:12 PM

I'm at a little over 8000 miles now and have had the crickets pretty much from the start. I did an experiment this weekend and had interesting results. I ran my tank of Shell 93 almost empty and filled up with non-ethanol 93 premium from a local Phillips 66 station. Since then the crickets have gone away. Also, my average fuel economy has gone from 26 mpg to 29 mpg. It looks like this chirping issue is caused by ethanol in the gas. I really wish they'd stop putting that crap in our fuel supply. Corn doesn't belong in my whisky or my gas tank. lol

View Poll Results: Do you have chirping (cricket) noise during idle once the car is warmed up?
Yes (Please only vote after you have 300 miles or more on the odometer)	3,101	85.22%
No (Please only vote after you have 300 miles or more on the odometer)	538	14.78%
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03-23-2014, 05:40 PM	#3859
SlinkyAvalanche Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: Whiteout 6MT Location: RI Posts: 52 Thanks: 13 Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Mine has it at ~650 miles :/. Shell 93 only __________________ Luke, use the FRS

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03-22-2014, 09:30 PM	#3853
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03-22-2014, 09:43 PM	#3854
Apex_BRZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited (WRB) Location: Iowa Posts: 259 Thanks: 9 Thanked 81 Times in 53 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Has anyone determined whether or not this is actually a PROBLEM rather than just a NOISE? Mine does it, of course, but I've just been ignoring it. Car feels fine. Noise can be a bit irritating, but it only does it at idle so I'm not sure I honestly care as long as it isn't actually hurting anything.

03-24-2014, 10:48 AM	#3861
Muskokan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: white Sport-tech Location: Ontario Posts: 676 Thanks: 204 Thanked 320 Times in 149 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	It's been pretty long since that oct revision, think they are throwing in the towel?

03-24-2014, 11:28 AM	#3863
KPR10 Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS - Asphalt Location: Canada - GTA Posts: 36 Thanks: 93 Thanked 10 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No crickets, 15,000 kms and I have only filled up with Shell v-Power 91, no ethanol.

03-24-2014, 01:12 PM	#3864
smg1138 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 2013 Raven FR-S Location: Nashville Posts: 775 Thanks: 968 Thanked 213 Times in 136 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I'm at a little over 8000 miles now and have had the crickets pretty much from the start. I did an experiment this weekend and had interesting results. I ran my tank of Shell 93 almost empty and filled up with non-ethanol 93 premium from a local Phillips 66 station. Since then the crickets have gone away. Also, my average fuel economy has gone from 26 mpg to 29 mpg. It looks like this chirping issue is caused by ethanol in the gas. I really wish they'd stop putting that crap in our fuel supply. Corn doesn't belong in my whisky or my gas tank. lol

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