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Victor Draken · 03-21-2014, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodename47

I add 0.5-0.7 deg to the advance table above 2600 and load over 1/1.1. I use the advance map as it makes it easier to keep track of. Do it in steps; add a bit, test, repeat if applicable.

The reason I would only touch those areas as that is where you are WOT. Then if you see any FBKC/FLKC, back those cells off by 0.35 deg.

Do you mind telling me the exactly name of the tables, I srsly never edited one in my whole life.

So you are suggesting to just make the change that affect WOT and not partial throttle, why this kind of choice??

btw: i can't open the rom in romraider checksum 2 fail edit table has been disabled : /

steve99 · 03-21-2014, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AL008

I'm running 98 Octane.

fix is here

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=387

Victor Draken · 03-21-2014, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by steve99

fix is here

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=387

Is aussie fuel fake 98octane? Is it calculated like in Europe so it's 98ron?
It's quite strange that you guys are having knock with 98ron. I'm using a 100ron fuel ( probably 98) and my IAM is steady at 1.

StormTrooper · 03-21-2014, 10:03 AM

Could be temperature or elevation differences.... Pretty sure it's warmer down under than Italy.

steve99 · 03-21-2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by StormTrooper

Could be temperature or elevation differences.... Pretty sure it's warmer down under than Italy.

Appears to be differences in fuel formulation 98RON is supposed to be equivalent to 93 AKI USA but it appears its not quite as good hence were having to pull some timing or run 100 RON which is not readily available to most. even on 100RON I was getting IAM drop on occasions.

steve99 · 03-21-2014, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Victor Draken

Is aussie fuel fake 98octane? Is it calculated like in Europe so it's 98ron?
It's quite strange that you guys are having knock with 98ron. I'm using a 100ron fuel ( probably 98) and my IAM is steady at 1.

On 100RON in OZ it was pretty good IAM=1 most of the time, but you could get it to drop if you punch the throttle in the 2000-3500 RPM range under load a few times in a short period. on 98 RON it did it much more often.

Victor Draken · 03-21-2014, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by steve99

On 100RON in OZ it was pretty good IAM=1 most of the time, but you could get it to drop if you punch the throttle in the 2000-3500 RPM range under load a few times in a short period. on 98 RON it did it much more often.

I'll try to do few wot pulls from 2000 to 3500
Only in 4th and 5th gear to increase load. Will see.

Steve do you know the advance timing table full name. I want to increase timings a bit and see if I can run a little more aggressive tune.
I went to advance timing category but don't understand what table in the folder should I touch.

steve99 · 03-21-2014, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Victor Draken

I'll try to do few wot pulls from 2000 to 3500
Only in 4th and 5th gear to increase load. Will see.

Steve do you know the advance timing table full name. I want to increase timings a bit and see if I can run a little more aggressive tune.
I went to advance timing category but don't understand what table in the folder should I touch.

"Base Timing B" I believe or "Advance max A"

Kodename47 · 03-21-2014, 10:47 AM

@Victor Draken the advance table is Knock Correction Advance Max A in RR.

As for partial throttle areas, I suppose this comes down to a couple of things. Do you feel you want more go for when you're just cruising? Cruise areas also appear to be the more knock prone with tip in knock. Seeing as Shiv has spent time developing the maps I don't see the need to push them in the areas when you're not going for it. If you look at the logs and see when you hit loads of 1 and above, you'll realise that for any decent throttle angle you're pushing through them anyway so load<1 is usually just cruising and the start of the pedal going down.

Kodename47 · 03-21-2014, 11:15 AM

I've just noticed that Shiv's advance table isn't flat. You can help yourself by making a flat table and then you can easily see what changes you've made.

s2d4 · 03-21-2014, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Victor Draken

Is aussie fuel fake 98octane? Is it calculated like in Europe so it's 98ron?
It's quite strange that you guys are having knock with 98ron. I'm using a 100ron fuel ( probably 98) and my IAM is steady at 1.

Look at your log, you are not immune to fbkc.

Shiv@Openflash · 03-21-2014, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by s2d4

Look at your log, you are not immune to fbkc.

What point(s) in the log are you referring to exactly.

steve99 · 03-21-2014, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

What point(s) in the log are you referring to exactly.

he has some minor fbck in the 2000-3200 range about what I had on 100 ron

steve99 · 03-21-2014, 03:04 PM

@shiv@vishnu

here is a log using Tactrix with a few more parameters.

http://datazap.me/u/steve99/98-knock-map-3-runs

I'm a bit concerned re the flck (as opposed to fbck) that I'm logging at 5000-7000 rpm. Also do you know the significance of flck_offset ??

I'm back on 98 RON again. This is the map with 0.35 pulled from areas in the 2000-3200 rpm range.

bit worried about the higher rpm flck though

AFR seems slightly rich (stock intake and exhaust)

Are the trims out far enough to warant maf scale ??

03-21-2014, 10:47 AM	#415
Kodename47 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: UK GT86 Location: UK Posts: 3,040 Thanks: 185 Thanked 1,633 Times in 1,113 Posts Mentioned: 156 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	@Victor Draken the advance table is Knock Correction Advance Max A in RR. As for partial throttle areas, I suppose this comes down to a couple of things. Do you feel you want more go for when you're just cruising? Cruise areas also appear to be the more knock prone with tip in knock. Seeing as Shiv has spent time developing the maps I don't see the need to push them in the areas when you're not going for it. If you look at the logs and see when you hit loads of 1 and above, you'll realise that for any decent throttle angle you're pushing through them anyway so load<1 is usually just cruising and the start of the pedal going down. __________________ .: Stealth 86 :. Abbey Motorsport/K47 Tuned Sprintex 210 Supercharger Kodename 47 DJ: Soundcloud / Instagram / Facebook

03-21-2014, 11:15 AM	#416
Kodename47 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: UK GT86 Location: UK Posts: 3,040 Thanks: 185 Thanked 1,633 Times in 1,113 Posts Mentioned: 156 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I've just noticed that Shiv's advance table isn't flat. You can help yourself by making a flat table and then you can easily see what changes you've made. __________________ .: Stealth 86 :. Abbey Motorsport/K47 Tuned Sprintex 210 Supercharger Kodename 47 DJ: Soundcloud / Instagram / Facebook

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steve99 Banned Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: FT86 Location: Australia Posts: 7,996 Thanks: 1,035 Thanked 4,994 Times in 2,984 Posts Mentioned: 598 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	@shiv@vishnu here is a log using Tactrix with a few more parameters. http://datazap.me/u/steve99/98-knock-map-3-runs I'm a bit concerned re the flck (as opposed to fbck) that I'm logging at 5000-7000 rpm. Also do you know the significance of flck_offset ?? I'm back on 98 RON again. This is the map with 0.35 pulled from areas in the 2000-3200 rpm range. bit worried about the higher rpm flck though AFR seems slightly rich (stock intake and exhaust) Are the trims out far enough to warant maf scale ??

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