How about a innovate thread for those who are thinking of buying one

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by xxscaxx

I admit, 300whp on pump sounds awesome. I kind of wish thats where this kit was, but then again it will be once the 210+ is released.

Where did you see that information? Has Innovate actually talked about the 210+ or just Sprintex?

[Model Citizen]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Another account eh. What was your previous account?

Just a nobody


But I'm trying ringo, I'm trying real hard.

[xxscaxx]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Where did you see that information? Has Innovate actually talked about the 210+ or just Sprintex?

I think Bill from Delicious mentioned achieving around 330whp with the 210+. I have seen a few other posts about a 30-40whp upgrade from the original.

I'm only going by hearsay. Sorry should have mentioned that lol

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by xxscaxx

I think Bill from Delicious mentioned achieving around 330whp with the 210+. I have seen a few other posts about a 30-40whp upgrade from the original.

I'm only going by hearsay. Sorry should have mentioned that lol

I'm waiting, I was told 4-6 weeks ETA for here in the UK.... Better efficiency at the top end will put it right in line with the other S/C kits hopefully.

[xxscaxx]

Originally Posted by Kodename47

I'm waiting, I was told 4-6 weeks ETA for here in the UK.... Better efficiency at the top end will put it right in line with the other S/C kits hopefully.

I was told a few months by someone, so I'm just not holding my breath on it lol. When it comes out it comes, but maybe you being in the UK you probably get first dibs. Looking forward to seeing results and a price for it.

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by xxscaxx

I was told a few months by someone, so I'm just not holding my breath on it lol. When it comes out it comes, but maybe you being in the UK you probably get first dibs. Looking forward to seeing results and a price for it.

I was told I could effectively sell back my 210 blower unit to my tuner in exchange for the new 210+. Obviously I would be charged for it's use but seeing as I know someone who is tempted by my 2nd hand unit, which has less than 1k on it currently, then it could work out nicely for all parties.

[xxscaxx]

Originally Posted by Kodename47

I was told I could effectively sell back my 210 blower unit to my tuner in exchange for the new 210+. Obviously I would be charged for it's use but seeing as I know someone who is tempted by my 2nd hand unit, which has less than 1k on it currently, then it could work out nicely for all parties.

Interesting..I am guessing there will be no taking care of the early adopters, but I hope so.

[mid_life_crisis]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Yup. It should be at least grade what, 8.8? All the shit on my car is grade 10.9 anyway. Do I need that much yield strength? No. Do I want that much yield strength? Yes.

You want to be careful with upgrading bolts on your own. A good manufacturer will take into account all the factors of the hardware they provide. One of those things is bolt stretch when torqued down. This affects how well the bolt holds in place when tightened down. Another is that they have to take into account what happens if you over-torque. Better to snap a bolt you can get out with the right tools than to strip a tapped hole because the bolt you used is stronger than what they designed around and end up having to heli-coil a blower, especially when there might not be room to drill the hole out.

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by xxscaxx

Interesting..I am guessing there will be no taking care of the early adopters, but I hope so.

My tuner has just told me that Sprintex are putting up their prices. This could be an issue for exchanges. Might mean 2nd hand kits hold their value though if you want to sell on.

[phloozy]

0 issue innovate owner here! Been following the thread for a while and I honestly have not seen any major issues. I guess im lucky, 10k miles on the kit and havent touched it since. Not sure how you can compare the innovate kits to other kits in terms of power delivery, they just arent the same. My goal was 250whp and for that I dont think there is a much better kit, if you want a lot more then it may not be for you.

[Acree]

How about a thread for those who are thinking about those who are thinking about buying one?

[xxscaxx]

Originally Posted by mid_life_crisis

You want to be careful with upgrading bolts on your own. A good manufacturer will take into account all the factors of the hardware they provide. One of those things is bolt stretch when torqued down. This affects how well the bolt holds in place when tightened down. Another is that they have to take into account what happens if you over-torque. Better to snap a bolt you can get out with the right tools than to strip a tapped hole because the bolt you used is stronger than what they designed around and end up having to heli-coil a blower, especially when there might not be room to drill the hole out.

Luckily the bolts provided basically "float" in the holes. You can literally use a pick and magnet and get them out quite easily. When the two Allen heads snapped on mine it took me 10 minutes to remove them.

[NickFRS]

Most of my issues have been shop related. The kit as a whole has done fine to me. Wish it came with a post blower IAT and Boost but what can you do. Innovate also stepped way out of their way to help me. Id recomened.

[wtsheff]

I have been viewing the various threads related to the innovate supercharger and I am still undecided what to do. I use my car for delivery in town and mainly wanted more instant acceleration from 0 to 30 mph in addition to eliminating the dreaded torque dip around 4000 RPMs.
After reading this report from Edmunds, I am discouraged even more about spending thousands of dollars for the advertised upgraded power. Somehow they were only able to gain an additional 40 hp from the aftermarket kit. I am sure the car was only running on premium instead of the E85 fuel (along with no IC), but the 0 to 30 MPH times were actually slightly higher than the OEM NA configuration. Also, I do not have a E85 station in close proximity to my house in Atlanta.
I also viewed a Innovate BRZ YouTube video where the driver pretty much corroborated the lack of improved acceleration in the sub 3500 rpm range. I am sure I would love the power in the higher RPM's, but driving around town I would rarely be able to enjoy it.
Can someone please convince me that my research is flawed and the low-end torque is substantially improved once the kit is installed properly with the addition of the intercooler.

Thanks in advance.

I came back to edit this post after reading about the new Innovate 210+ kit and 335 kit. Maybe I should just keep waiting until these new kits become available and perfected in the US.

http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/t...ck-tested.html