Innovate (Sprintex) Supercharger Owners Topic

[Dustin]

I've never seen one in person so I wasn't sure 100% what the flaw is with the plates not working. I don't see how it could be placed anywhere besides a runner. Would still be more accurate than in the intake pre blower. @Kodename47 do you have any pics of how the manifold was modified? Which part was "drilled"?

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by Dustin

I've never seen one in person so I wasn't sure 100% what the flaw is with the plates not working. I don't see how it could be placed anywhere besides a runner. Would still be more accurate than in the intake pre blower. @Kodename47 do you have any pics of how the manifold was modified? Which part was "drilled"?

I'm afraid I don't. It's was just a larger hole to fit the sensor through, the sensor was too large to fit without drilling and it puts it into the path of air..
I've no concerns with its location, I'm not sure what issues could arise from that?

[Dustin]

Okay, so the overall OD of the hole the plate covers was made larger? Sorry not trying to have you repeat yourself. I'm just more of a usual person. I don't see any issues with its location either. Also, do you know where someone could buy that sensor?

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by Dustin

Okay, so the overall OD of the hole the plate covers was made larger? Sorry not trying to have you repeat yourself. I'm just more of a usual person. I don't see any issues with its location either.

No. The MAP plate and hole is the same size as the normal kit. It's the area under where the sensor sits that has been cut away. It's just enough for the IAT sensor to enter the runners.

[Dustin]

Okay, now I got it. Sorry for not understanding at first. Thanks for the info. Looking forward to see how this works for you.

[sw20kosh]

That is great that Abbey was able to engineer a IAT sensor that works. The FA20club IAT sensor plate failed horribly as the sensor was reading the temp of the plate and not the air...

As long as your IAT sensor being in the direct airflow of only one runner does not cause too much airflow difference in that runner it should be perfect. I guess as long as the car is tuned afterwards it should be fine.

[Calum]

Originally Posted by Kodename47

I'm afraid I don't. It's was just a larger hole to fit the sensor through, the sensor was too large to fit without drilling and it puts it into the path of air..
I've no concerns with its location, I'm not sure what issues could arise from that?

As long as the sensor is temperature only it wouldn't make a difference. But if the sensor is in a runner and it's picking up pressure it's going to see pressure waves from the acoustics of the air moving.

[calispec]

Originally Posted by Calum

As long as the sensor is temperature only it wouldn't make a difference. But if the sensor is in a runner and it's picking up pressure it's going to see pressure waves from the acoustics of the air moving.

I believe that is why the aftermarket MAP sensors are having a problem. Like moto mike said it is harmonizing with the intake valves opening and causing problems. I took a look at the stock manifold yesterday and even though the sensor sits in about the same location there is a channel on the inside of the manifold which puts the inlet for the sensor near the middle of the manifold close to the throttle body.

[EAGLE5]

Perhaps a phenolic plate might work better, not conducting as much heat, and be cheaper to produce. Also, diagonal placement of the sensor holes may allow for more room and use of the stock opening.

[Kodename47]

The hole isn't deep enough for the type of sensor used. Might I add that in my setup I use 2 sensors on the plate, IAT and MAP are separate.

[NickFRS]

Hey guys is anyone running the non intercooled kit with E85 and a 70mm pulley? I'm almost thinking about doing this very soon. Think it would be okay? Only person I know running that set up also has meth... which is @evan and his insane car... Wondering if it would be to hard on the blower even with E85's cooling.

(also would it be possible to keep the fuel system stock)

@DeliciousTuning and @moto-mike what are your thoughts?

I would only be doing a couple 1/4 mile runs and maybe a track day or two. If I did a track day they wouldn't be competition or back to back runs.

[Powersfrs]

I will be! ima install it Saturday

[xxscaxx]

Originally Posted by NickFRS

Hey guys is anyone running the non intercooled kit with E85 and a 70mm pulley? I'm almost thinking about doing this very soon. Think it would be okay? Only person I know running that set up also has meth... which is @evan and his insane car... Wondering if it would be to hard on the blower even with E85's cooling.

(also would it be possible to keep the fuel system stock)

@DeliciousTuning and @moto-mike what are your thoughts?

I would only be doing a couple 1/4 mile runs and maybe a track day or two. If I did a track day they wouldn't be competition or back to back runs.

You should be fine - I know Mike ran his car this way for a bit before the intercooler swap.

Delicious Tuning uses stock injectors, I can't recall if he uses the stock pump too at that level. Mike is a fan of DW injectors and a fuel pump setup, unless that has changed as of recent. I still think he can do it without the injectors though.

[mikalem]

Originally Posted by xxscaxx

You should be fine - I know Mike ran his car this way for a bit before the intercooler swap.

Delicious Tuning uses stock injectors, I can't recall if he uses the stock pump too at that level. Mike is a fan of DW injectors and a fuel pump setup, unless that has changed as of recent. I still think he can do it without the injectors though.

I know for the 75 with e85 mike can tune for stock fuel setup (its my config at the moment)

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