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Old 03-16-2014, 06:27 PM   #3963
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I'm guessing just use the same coolant in the intercooler as what's in the radiator?
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Old 03-16-2014, 07:34 PM   #3964
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I'm guessing just use the same coolant in the intercooler as what's in the radiator?
I have ZERO information on what sprintex suggests, but distilled water with water wetter would give better cooling efficiency than any coolant I know of.
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Old 03-16-2014, 07:42 PM   #3965
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I'm not impressed by how each laminova core is sealed. My understanding is that each core gets an o-ring on each end. No screwing in. Nothing else. It doesn't seem to be the best design since a small tolerance screwup or mistake in installation leads to the crap multiple people have faced.
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Old 03-16-2014, 11:15 PM   #3966
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These numbers are quite good for 92 octane and the more sedate AFR we have it running. With the 70mm pulley, it'll really start to shine on e85 where we can push more timing. H2O/meth will do similar as well. For reference, this was posted with the FB Turbo: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=124

So you're not too far off at all. Especially considering that below 4500 the SC wins

But add some ethanol or h2o/meth, the intake temps become less relevant (weakness of the SC) and you'll see HP get closer to 300 and tq to 250...totally different car at those levels!

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The numbers aren't impressive but not horrible. I've hit the wall on this kit and the only thing I can do running 92oct gas is to get a different kit, run meth injection, or run e85 (or both). I'd prefer to stay on the normal gas for convenience.

The kit can only run on the stock MAP sensor as any other sensor like the 3bar with freak out the ECU at the top end for an unknown reason. There's no post blower temp reading.

I'd say this kit is great for someone that wants about what you see in HP/TQ and doesn't want to bother getting supporting mods like exhaust, intake, a clutch, injectors, or fuel pump, and an OEM look, or just that nice supercharger whine.

The two lines are 75mm stock pulley, not intercooled, 92oct gas on BRZedit tune @Drift-Office Bob correct me if I'm wrong). The second is 70mm pulley, intercooled, 92oct gas on EcuTek.

Big props to Bob at Drift Office @Drift-Office and Mike at Moto East @moto-mike for figuring out the difficulties with this kit and making my car shine with what it has. You've earned a loyal customer with your superb customer service and quality work.

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Old 03-16-2014, 11:44 PM   #3967
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Old 03-17-2014, 01:42 AM   #3968
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Not yet. Put in my support ticket requesting for it though.

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Not yet. Put in my support ticket requesting for it though.

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I'm unable to create a ticket. I get an error that says the site admin needs to create and enable a client before I can make a ticket....dunno what that's all about.
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I'm unable to create a ticket. I get an error that says the site admin needs to create and enable a client before I can make a ticket....dunno what that's all about.
Send Bill a PM or email and ask him the enable in it for you. I had the same thing happen awhile back and he fixed it for me.

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Send Bill a PM or email and ask him the enable in it for you. I had the same thing happen awhile back and he fixed it for me.

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I sent him an email about it earlier. Was really hoping to try out this new tune before I go back to work for 2 weeks
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Old 03-17-2014, 03:17 AM   #3972
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The two lines are 75mm stock pulley, not intercooled, 92oct gas on BRZedit tune @Drift-Office Bob correct me if I'm wrong). The second is 70mm pulley, intercooled, 92oct gas on EcuTek.
Both of them were with 92 Octane, ECUTek. The first one was our calibration pre-intercooler install. The second was a custom calibration from @moto-mike, which I strongly recommend all who have the Innovate setup to at least get a calibration from.

I couldn't figure out why the setup was wigging out after the IC was installed and only after conferring with Mike @ Moto-East was it then I was told that it was an issue everyone was seeing (it's in the Innovate owner's thread) and that the stock MAP sensor was needed to fix this.

I had previously spent over 2 weeks trying to figure it out up to that point, so I have no wish to address this setup, ever again.

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For reference, this was posted with the FB Turbo: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=124

So you're not too far off at all. Especially considering that below 4500 the SC wins
Nice selection for comparison, haha. A properly running FBM kit will start making more power and torque than the Innovate in the 3500 to 4000 RPM range, but the Innovate does dominate that 2000 to 3500 RPM range.
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Old 03-17-2014, 01:16 PM   #3974
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Non intercooled in the mail, having it tuned locally hopefully by the end of the week! This thread helped steer me towards innovate. So thanks to all you beta testers!
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It would have been nice if people came out about the issue with the map sensor, or the simple issue of the intercooler wigging out at high rpm. It would have saved me a ton of money.

Still waiting to go get retuned, but can't wait to be over and done with tuning for a while. I'm sick of it lol
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Old 03-17-2014, 02:45 PM   #3976
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Non intercooled in the mail, having it tuned locally hopefully by the end of the week! This thread helped steer me towards innovate. So thanks to all you beta testers!
I have been through a few tuners and tunes. I would seriously suggest @DeliciousTuning. He has a LOT of time on the tune and will continue to develop it. It is the best tune I have used this far. Save yourself money and time. He was the one who told me about the MAP issue back in September and is why I didn't waste $300 on a new one. Just my honest opinion.
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