cornering-on-rails feeling - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

notout86 · 03-09-2014, 04:51 AM

Now and again when cornering (not hard but a little bit vigorously) I get a cornering-on-rails feeling. It feels great and the wife will comment on it spontaneously.
What is the secret?

Atticus808 · 03-09-2014, 04:55 AM

are you talking about driving? or something else?

lsxiong · 03-09-2014, 05:09 AM

You might be trying to describe the feeling you get when you maintain a good constant speed around the corner while accelerating just when you're about to finish the turn around the corner. Being the in correct gear helps to maintain the momentum and being close to the corner maximizes the effect. Done right, it feels like you're slinging your car around and out of the corner.

hamzam · 03-09-2014, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lsxiong

You might be trying to describe the feeling you get when you maintain a good constant speed around the corner while accelerating just when you're about to finish the turn around the corner. Being the in correct gear helps to maintain the momentum and being close to the corner maximizes the effect. Done right, it feels like you're slinging your car around and out of the corner.

Agreed. Accelerating through a corner feels as if there is less body roll vs laying of the gas. It is a glorious feeling.

Deep Six · 03-09-2014, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by notout86

Now and again when cornering (not hard but a little bit vigorously) I get a cornering-on-rails feeling. It feels great and the wife will comment on it spontaneously.
What is the secret?

I get that feeling all the time thanks to camber and R comps (1.2 G's)

jdcorbitt3 · 03-09-2014, 09:40 AM

That is when you are approaching the threshold without sliding. If you go to the point where you slid the rear (drift or oversteer) or the front (push or under steer), you are loosing traction and actually exiting the turn slower.

John

Mikem53 · 03-09-2014, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by notout86

Now and again when cornering (not hard but a little bit vigorously) I get a cornering-on-rails feeling. It feels great and the wife will comment on it spontaneously.
What is the secret?

The car is low and wide.. Low COG, lightweight so less mass for inertia to deal with.. All this on skinny tires too!
Which is why I enjoy this car so much! This car has a one piece feel to it because the wheels and tires are not fat and heavy.. So the car moves as one piece and doesn't feel heavy and dull at the corners..

FRStock · 03-09-2014, 01:44 PM

I had that feeling yesterday...then the rear end started sliding out. TC caught it. IT wasn't scary, just a gradual slide.

notout86 · 03-10-2014, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lsxiong

You might be trying to describe the feeling you get when you maintain a good constant speed around the corner while accelerating just when you're about to finish the turn around the corner. Being the in correct gear helps to maintain the momentum and being close to the corner maximizes the effect. Done right, it feels like you're slinging your car around and out of the corner.

Thanks... I reckon you have nailed it. I have noticed that it helps to be down a gear or two as extra responsiveness often seems a necessary ingredient. I wonder if sometimes when I do not get the feeling it is because the revs are somewhere in the dreaded torque dip.

Such a sensitive creature this car and I'm a clumsy bastard. I'm off to practise.

Tromatic · 03-10-2014, 12:23 AM

The whole purpose of this car. They did a stellar job on it.

Wise · 03-10-2014, 12:26 AM

It's called rear wheel drive.

fatoni · 03-10-2014, 12:36 AM

i think its really a function of the cog being relatively close to the roll axis. i think that distance is proportional to the amount of roll given a particular cornering force. i dont think that cornering speeds are directly related to the feeling though.

fatoni · 03-10-2014, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Wise

It's called rear wheel drive.

how do you figure?

Turbo95eg6 · 03-10-2014, 01:14 AM

Pretty sure he's just trolling about railing his wife... Although I may be wrong

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Atticus808 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Splash Mountain Location: Disneyland Posts: 1,057 Thanks: 940 Thanked 2,337 Times in 918 Posts Mentioned: 24 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	are you talking about driving? or something else?

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lsxiong Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Drives: 92 Integra Location: California Posts: 53 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You might be trying to describe the feeling you get when you maintain a good constant speed around the corner while accelerating just when you're about to finish the turn around the corner. Being the in correct gear helps to maintain the momentum and being close to the corner maximizes the effect. Done right, it feels like you're slinging your car around and out of the corner.

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jdcorbitt3 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 red FR-S, OFT. 2000 Miata SE Location: Ocala Posts: 110 Thanks: 22 Thanked 50 Times in 28 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That is when you are approaching the threshold without sliding. If you go to the point where you slid the rear (drift or oversteer) or the front (push or under steer), you are loosing traction and actually exiting the turn slower. John

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FRStock Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: 13 FRS Location: Midwest Posts: 56 Thanks: 8 Thanked 31 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I had that feeling yesterday...then the rear end started sliding out. TC caught it. IT wasn't scary, just a gradual slide.

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Tromatic Banned Join Date: May 2013 Drives: FR-S Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,232 Thanks: 61 Thanked 1,728 Times in 786 Posts Mentioned: 19 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The whole purpose of this car. They did a stellar job on it.

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fatoni Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: miata, mazdaspeed protege, ls430 Location: socal Posts: 4,416 Thanks: 599 Thanked 1,443 Times in 787 Posts Mentioned: 28 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i think its really a function of the cog being relatively close to the roll axis. i think that distance is proportional to the amount of roll given a particular cornering force. i dont think that cornering speeds are directly related to the feeling though.

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Turbo95eg6 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2014 BRZ SWP LTD Location: The 503 Posts: 2,174 Thanks: 331 Thanked 2,266 Times in 858 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Pretty sure he's just trolling about railing his wife... Although I may be wrong

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