I need help choosing rims...

[jflogerzi]

I suggest 17x7.5 or 17x8. Good balance that allows for wider tires but will clear stock suspension no problem. Just don't get some crazy offset like 30 or below. 35-45 is the sweet spot.

[FunCon5]

Originally Posted by m.wood0213

Like I said I'm not an expert just in other threads ppl have classified rota as knockoffs and fragile. Idk what though.

The OP has a budget, the wheels I suggested fit in it.

Many other members here run rota titans and can attest to the fact that they are not "fragile".

[dbrandt01]

I've been looking at Rota Grids in that price range, or some nkei's. No specific one because I keep changing my mind everyday on the wheels I want, but I have the same price range as you.

I know someone mentioned these, never heard the brand, but 15lbs each if weight is big for you
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel..._16&sort=Brand

I love the knock off excuse. I had knock offs on my truck. I treated that truck very rough and they held up. I can't see paying $500 a wheel just for the name on it, because at the end of the day, if you smack a curb at 45, it'll be damaged no matter what brand you have on it. But oh well, most are internet warriors thatbelieve what 1-2 people online say instead of the people that have them or real facts.

[Diode Dynamics]

I've seen plenty of horror stories about well-known brands cracking under normal conditions also.

BTW does anyone have HRE's

http://www.hrewheels.com/gallery/sci...k-brush-tinted

Nick C.

[Vracer111]

Originally Posted by barabia

I am curious though about when you say better fitment, CAN 215 wide tires be fitted to 7.5 wide rims? and if the offset is 40mm isnt that further away form oem than 45mm? Im not gonna lie, I have never purchased aftermarket rims before in my life and I really want to get this right, and hopefully learn a bit along the way. Thats a big reason Im trying to keep everything as close to factory as possible, I dont want to just go "modding" my car without understanding exactly what Im doing and why Im doing it. Also why Ive decided 'what the heck, I had better start asking around no matter how dumb I might sound lol'

As far as I can tell, and correct me if Im wrong because I very well could be, the factory rims are 17x7 48mm offset. So if I go with 17x7 45mm offset, that is only 3mm away from factory, and its actually 3mm wider than factory, so thats a good thing, right? Or if anything a nearly inconsequential thing.

If the 215 tires do fit on 7.5 wide rims and the offset is 40mm, wouldnt that make it 8mm wider than factory? Possibly creating the 'poke' stance that people (myself included) want to avoid?

Im trying to learn and 'see' as much as I can using the fitment calculator in the sticky but as good of a tool as that is I just need more practical insight, I suppose.

Almost every 215/45-17 tire made is designed to fit up to an 8" width rim. The wider the rim you put it on the more responsive the tire becomes, and this is more important with the tires known to have "softer" sidewalls. The tread width of the 215/45-17 Michelin Pilot Super Sport is 7.7" which is just barely wider than the 7.5" width measurement, an ideal measurement to me. If your tread with is way wider than the wheel width that means your tire is mounted closer to the minimum width wheel it was designed for and will not be at its most responsive potential. Tire compound is much more important than tire width for grip. So if you want as sharp handling as possible with grip you go for the sticky compound tires where your wheel rim is at the maximum rated width for the tire size.

As for the offset, a +40mm 17x7.5" wheel is still tucked way inside the fender - not even close to "poke". A +40mm offset on a 7.5" width wheel will be ~ 14mm further out than stock. I also have +36mm offset 17x8 Kosei K4R wheels for track duty with stock size but sticky Kumho Ecsta XS tires which fill out the wheel fenders more but are still inside the fender with room to spare...







The FRS feels more planted with a wider offset setup, and looks better as well not having the wheels being sunken so far inside the wheel well. It will be putting a little more stress on the bearings, but nothing that would make you need to change them out in a noticeably shorter interval than normal - unless you heavily track the car on sticky tires. If that's the case, then wheel bearings would be considered a consumable anyways...

[barabia]

Originally Posted by Diode Dynamics

I've seen plenty of horror stories about well-known brands cracking under normal conditions also.

BTW does anyone have HRE's

http://www.hrewheels.com/gallery/sci...k-brush-tinted

Nick C.

Those are VERY nice looking rims. I will look further into those, thank you.

[barabia]

Originally Posted by Vracer111

Almost every 215/45-17 tire made is designed to fit up to an 8" width rim. The wider the rim you put it on the more responsive the tire becomes, and this is more important with the tires known to have "softer" sidewalls. The tread width of the 215/45-17 Michelin Pilot Super Sport is 7.7" which is just barely wider than the 7.5" width measurement, an ideal measurement to me. If your tread with is way wider than the wheel width that means your tire is mounted closer to the minimum width wheel it was designed for and will not be at its most responsive potential. Tire compound is much more important than tire width for grip. So if you want as sharp handling as possible with grip you go for the sticky compound tires where your wheel rim is at the maximum rated width for the tire size.

As for the offset, a +40mm 17x7.5" wheel is still tucked way inside the fender - not even close to "poke". A +40mm offset on a 7.5" width wheel will be ~ 14mm further out than stock. I also have +36mm offset 17x8 Kosei K4R wheels for track duty with stock size but sticky Kumho Ecsta XS tires which fill out the wheel fenders more but are still inside the fender with room to spare...







The FRS feels more planted with a wider offset setup, and looks better as well not having the wheels being sunken so far inside the wheel well. It will be putting a little more stress on the bearings, but nothing that would make you need to change them out in a noticeably shorter interval than normal - unless you heavily track the car on sticky tires. If that's the case, then wheel bearings would be considered a consumable anyways...

Ok, this helps me tremendously. I was under the impression that if I was going with the stock tire width, it would be best to go with the stock rim width. If what you say is correct then I can definitely open up my options for rim sizes to anywhere from 7-8" wide as well as a 48-40mm offset and still be okay given the tires I will be fitting. And now I better understand the trade offs between them. So maybe Im not as limited as I thought. This is exactly why I decided to jump on here and ask for advice and thank you so much for helping me. Im still about 3 weeks away from my 'deadline' to make a final decision and as I sort of anticipated, I have a TON of options still to weigh. In any case, I'll keep looking and with a better understanding and even more confident I will find the right rim for me. More suggestions and advice from would be great, and I will continue the post options that are appealing to me.

[Apex-Wolf]

I'm in love with these but have no info on them, saw them in a post on the forums.
http://club4ag.com/Wordpress/wp-cont...ars-100-12.jpg

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by Apex-Wolf

I'm in love with these but have no info on them, saw them in a post on the forums.
http://club4ag.com/Wordpress/wp-cont...ars-100-12.jpg

These are trd rims. They sell for 235each and come in a staggered setup with a 35mm offset

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look for them on toyotaparts.com site

[barabia]

Originally Posted by Apex-Wolf

I'm in love with these but have no info on them, saw them in a post on the forums.
http://club4ag.com/Wordpress/wp-cont...ars-100-12.jpg

Those look A LOT like the Five Axis rims. And they very well may be, considering the design work they do for toyota.

http://www.fivead.net/wheels/s7-f/s7...-gunmetal.html

Unfortunately, they are prrretty far outside my needs, but yes I am a fan LOL

[Diode Dynamics]

Originally Posted by barabia

Those are VERY nice looking rims. I will look further into those, thank you.

HRE is one of my favorite wheel manufacturers, but a nice set of them will definitely set you back some serious $$$

Nick C.

[vtmike]

You can't go wrong with RPF1's. You could probably find some 17x8 in silver in the 800s

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