I need help choosing rims... - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

barabia · 02-27-2014, 09:16 PM

Looking for suggestions on what rim would be a good choice for me. I've been looking for a while and I still cant put my finger on exactly what I want to go with. I do have some specifics nailed down though:

They need to be OEM size since I already have PSS tires to put on them, I also factory suspension.

I do plan on autoX and PDXing the car often, but just for fun.

I have a budget of about $700 dollars, $750 tops.

Any and all suggestions to look into would be much appreciated!

Oh yeah, they will be going on an asphalt FR-S.

FunCon5 · 02-28-2014, 12:01 AM

I personally really like Rota titans. Inexpensive and fairly lightweight. 17 x8 weigh 17lbs. And they are in your price range. 17x9 's are 17.8 lbs.

kodyo · 02-28-2014, 12:06 AM

Go on Nasioc forum and try to find a set local. I got my set for $700 (Older set of SSR Type Cs).
Same hubcentric size and lug pattern as our cars.

m.wood0213 · 02-28-2014, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by FunCon5

I personally really like Rota titans. Inexpensive and fairly lightweight. 17 x8 weigh 17lbs. And they are in your price range. 17x9 's are 17.8 lbs.

Not an expert but read knockoffs like Rota's do not hold up very well.

Do you live in a pot hole free area? Anyone can correct me if im wrong.

IAmNotTheDriftKing · 02-28-2014, 12:09 AM

If you are staying OEM size you can get some Enkeis for around that price. You can probably get some used Rays as well. If you want to go all out and go with 17x9s you can get Rota Titans for about 700 bucks.

DAEMANO · 02-28-2014, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by m.wood0213

Not an expert but read knockoffs like Rota's do not hold up very well.

Do you live in a pot hole free area? Anyone can correct me if im wrong.

How do you classify a knock-off?

Is it construction method? Are all non-forged wheels knock-offs?

Original design? How did you determine what mfg had the "original"?

Original style? How did you determine what wheel was the "original"?

Lastly what about the stock wheels, are they knock offs? Many people autoX and track on them and they hold up great. What criteria above make them better than "knock-offs"?

m.wood0213 · 02-28-2014, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DAEMANO

How do you classify a knock-off?

Is it construction method? Are all non-forged wheels knock-offs?

Original design? How did you determine what mfg had the "original"?

Original style? How did you determine what wheel was the "original"?

Lastly what about the stock wheels, are they knock offs? Many people autoX and track on them and they hold up great. What criteria above make them better than "knock-offs"?

Like I said I'm not an expert just in other threads ppl have classified rota as knockoffs and fragile. Idk what though.

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barabia · 02-28-2014, 02:00 AM

Thank you guys, Ive been looking a lot and I think I did actually find the set for me. lol, its funny because they look A LOT like the stock rims which I like so much, but even a little better AND a little lighter :o)

What do you think?

jflogerzi · 02-28-2014, 03:33 AM

Rota Titans. Don't let people tell you Rota are bad quality. They are 1 piece cast wheels. Looks good and they are about 3LBS lighter then stock.

suaveflooder · 02-28-2014, 03:47 AM

Rota's have come a long way from the "old days" Don't let the "knock off" idea scare you off. The difference between rotas and "real wheels" is usually whether they will crack or bend. Good news, is that if you crack a rota, you still have a spare tire

Also, it's going to take a lot to crack one. The pot hole idea is a little bit of an exaggeration…..unless it is a BIG pot hole.

Vracer111 · 02-28-2014, 03:55 AM

Enkei Fujins are in your budget, and are lighter with better fitment than the T-Forks (+40mm offset 17x7.5 wheel weighing 17.1 lbs versus a +45mm offset 17x7 wheel weighing 18.2 lbs)...

barabia · 02-28-2014, 05:37 AM

Ok, so I checked out the titans and theyre not bad. I like them in both black and hyper black, but I dont think they will work with my tires? (PSS, 215 wide) Also, the fujins are a model that I was considering for a while and theyre not bad either but they just dont do it for me :o/ same thing with the RPF1, I mean obviously yes they are a really good choice and TONS of people are using them but for whatever reason I just dont care for the looks of them. I guess Im like 60% form 40% function on this. Im still really digging those T-forks, almost certain thats exactly what Im looking for. I do appriecate all of your help and sugguestions, and Id like to hear some more if anybody has any.

barabia · 02-28-2014, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Vracer111

Enkei Fujins are in your budget, and are lighter with better fitment than the T-Forks (+40mm offset 17x7.5 wheel weighing 17.1 lbs versus a +45mm offset 17x7 wheel weighing 18.2 lbs)...

I am curious though about when you say better fitment, CAN 215 wide tires be fitted to 7.5 wide rims? and if the offset is 40mm isnt that further away form oem than 45mm? Im not gonna lie, I have never purchased aftermarket rims before in my life and I really want to get this right, and hopefully learn a bit along the way. Thats a big reason Im trying to keep everything as close to factory as possible, I dont want to just go "modding" my car without understanding exactly what Im doing and why Im doing it. Also why Ive decided 'what the heck, I had better start asking around no matter how dumb I might sound lol'

As far as I can tell, and correct me if Im wrong because I very well could be, the factory rims are 17x7 48mm offset. So if I go with 17x7 45mm offset, that is only 3mm away from factory, and its actually 3mm wider than factory, so thats a good thing, right? Or if anything a nearly inconsequential thing.

If the 215 tires do fit on 7.5 wide rims and the offset is 40mm, wouldnt that make it 8mm wider than factory? Possibly creating the 'poke' stance that people (myself included) want to avoid?

Im trying to learn and 'see' as much as I can using the fitment calculator in the sticky but as good of a tool as that is I just need more practical insight, I suppose.

IAmNotTheDriftKing · 02-28-2014, 06:23 AM

Alright, so it seems you want to get a nicer set of wheels but without having to worry about rubbing. Well, you won't have to worry about rubbing unless you get some much much wider wheels. You can run a 17x9 with a 42mm offset with zero issues on OEM suspension. If you are sticking with a 17x7 wheel, you have no issues what so ever with fitment. Even if you decide to go a bit wider at 17x8, you won't have to worry.

02-27-2014, 09:16 PM	#1
barabia Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Rockford, IL Posts: 74 Thanks: 62 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I need help choosing rims... Looking for suggestions on what rim would be a good choice for me. I've been looking for a while and I still cant put my finger on exactly what I want to go with. I do have some specifics nailed down though: They need to be OEM size since I already have PSS tires to put on them, I also factory suspension. I do plan on autoX and PDXing the car often, but just for fun. I have a budget of about $700 dollars, $750 tops. Any and all suggestions to look into would be much appreciated! Oh yeah, they will be going on an asphalt FR-S.

02-28-2014, 03:47 AM	#10
suaveflooder Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: San Diego Posts: 2,295 Thanks: 2,708 Thanked 1,052 Times in 664 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Rota's have come a long way from the "old days" Don't let the "knock off" idea scare you off. The difference between rotas and "real wheels" is usually whether they will crack or bend. Good news, is that if you crack a rota, you still have a spare tire Also, it's going to take a lot to crack one. The pot hole idea is a little bit of an exaggeration…..unless it is a BIG pot hole. Last edited by suaveflooder; 02-28-2014 at 03:58 AM.

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02-28-2014, 12:01 AM	#2
FunCon5 Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: oregon Posts: 84 Thanks: 2 Thanked 34 Times in 27 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I personally really like Rota titans. Inexpensive and fairly lightweight. 17 x8 weigh 17lbs. And they are in your price range. 17x9 's are 17.8 lbs.

02-28-2014, 12:06 AM	#3
kodyo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: Scion FR-S Location: Los Angeles Posts: 686 Thanks: 597 Thanked 257 Times in 174 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Go on Nasioc forum and try to find a set local. I got my set for $700 (Older set of SSR Type Cs). Same hubcentric size and lug pattern as our cars.

02-28-2014, 12:09 AM	#5
IAmNotTheDriftKing Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: I own an FR-S. . . whatelse! Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 318 Thanks: 114 Thanked 140 Times in 84 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If you are staying OEM size you can get some Enkeis for around that price. You can probably get some used Rays as well. If you want to go all out and go with 17x9s you can get Rota Titans for about 700 bucks.

02-28-2014, 02:00 AM	#8
barabia Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Rockford, IL Posts: 74 Thanks: 62 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thank you guys, Ive been looking a lot and I think I did actually find the set for me. lol, its funny because they look A LOT like the stock rims which I like so much, but even a little better AND a little lighter :o) What do you think?

02-28-2014, 05:37 AM	#12
barabia Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Rockford, IL Posts: 74 Thanks: 62 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ok, so I checked out the titans and theyre not bad. I like them in both black and hyper black, but I dont think they will work with my tires? (PSS, 215 wide) Also, the fujins are a model that I was considering for a while and theyre not bad either but they just dont do it for me :o/ same thing with the RPF1, I mean obviously yes they are a really good choice and TONS of people are using them but for whatever reason I just dont care for the looks of them. I guess Im like 60% form 40% function on this. Im still really digging those T-forks, almost certain thats exactly what Im looking for. I do appriecate all of your help and sugguestions, and Id like to hear some more if anybody has any.

02-28-2014, 06:23 AM	#14
IAmNotTheDriftKing Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: I own an FR-S. . . whatelse! Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 318 Thanks: 114 Thanked 140 Times in 84 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Alright, so it seems you want to get a nicer set of wheels but without having to worry about rubbing. Well, you won't have to worry about rubbing unless you get some much much wider wheels. You can run a 17x9 with a 42mm offset with zero issues on OEM suspension. If you are sticking with a 17x7 wheel, you have no issues what so ever with fitment. Even if you decide to go a bit wider at 17x8, you won't have to worry.

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