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Old 03-02-2014, 05:17 PM   #85
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Im leaning towards the AVO stage 1.5, a few questions though, as im seeing it most people have multiple types of exhaust running on a AVO kit, so im assuming the exhaust flanges are universal? (Plan to run a 3") as far as a E85 tune, what kind of power would I be expecting? i.e. I would be traveling to @Drift-Office for my tune and such.

p.s. another relatively off topic question, how long do these AVO stage 1/1.5 kits take to tune?
Typically, I can do it in 3 days, but I like taking extra precautions, so figure four days on the top end. Others have gotten 380 with E85, but I do not do E85 calibrations.

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@cdrazic93 why the avo thou ?
Because im looking for subaru oem power on pump, nothing like 310whp or anything. More like 280-290, or what you might get from an STi EJ257. Ive seen threads reguarding the manifold issue and it had to do with gaskets.

According to Paul, all new kits being shipped out are including new gaskets to fix the problem. As for the manifold welds, I will inspect them throughly.

Ive heard many good reviews about AVO kit from multiple people on this board. I dont expect FI to go smoothly or very straight forward (i.e. after install all the little bumps and annoying problems to take care of), I really do expect to encounter problems, as any aftermarket FI kit buyer should.

Considering my past vehicle background (06 2.5i and such) this car stock would already be the fastest car I have driven do date, so Im no where near prepared for something that will kill me that much faster.

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If I might ask - where are you planning to get E85? There are zero stations between Marysville and JBLM. E85 is not feasible for us in the PNW. Bob will probably tell you as well that E85 is not the way to go here.

My kit was installed and tuned by Drift Office. I think my car was down for 4 business days?
It is possible to buy in drums and have them shipped to garage. This sounds like it would be a more tedious task to accomplish, considering I would need a better clutch and supporting fuel mods and blah blah blah plus the E85 barrel. Probably be best to save that for another day, knowing drift office doesnt tune for E85, I would most likely have to go to cali for that kind of tune, which is a project in of itself.
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It is possible to buy in drums and have them shipped to garage. This sounds like it would be a more tedious task to accomplish, considering I would need a better clutch and supporting fuel mods and blah blah blah plus the E85 barrel. Probably be best to save that for another day, knowing drift office doesnt tune for E85, I would most likely have to go to cali for that kind of tune, which is a project in of itself.
If you are going to buy in drums why not just get race gas?
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If you are going to buy in drums why not just get race gas?
I use the term E85 loosely, basically I mean another much higher octane gas other than pump, whether it be E85 or race gas. E85 is cheaper than race gas right?
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I think you're getting ahead of yourself. Get it installed with a 92 octane tune before you do anything
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I think you're getting ahead of yourself. Get it installed with a 92 octane tune before you do anything
Well yes, first and foremost a pump tune. im talking about making use of the full overhead so I wont get bored with the power as easily. but yes, I was getting ahead of myself a tad lol
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I was getting ahead of myself a tad lol

No shit!

Expecting serious problems with the kit and install?
Thinking of buying drums of E85?
Race gas?
More power, cause I'll be bored?

Way ahead of yourself. Take a chill pill
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No shit!

Expecting serious problems with the kit and install?
Thinking of buying drums of E85?
Race gas?
More power, cause I'll be bored?

Way ahead of yourself. Take a chill pill
No I'm not expecting serious problems, I never stated that. I'm expecting standard minor problems, you've heard of "hope for the best expect the worst"?i would rather be over prepared than underprepared for a daily driver car. If I'm going to be spending multiple thousands of dollars on a DD then yes, I have to take into account if it will keep me happy in the long run. If I get bored with it in 2 years I won't want to spend that kind of money.

I was simply referring to E85 as a long term goal, towards a kit that will provide OEM performance that should have come from factory, then a splash of E85 will remind me it's not from factory.

Drums of E85 came about because there is no E85 in the PNW, this if I want any I'd have to ship barrels in. Someone suggested an alternative being race gas instead of E85, referring to the long term goal of my opinion on how the OEM performance should have been, then reminding myself why it's not OEM.

You act like thinking ahead is a bad thing, yet most everyone tells me if you don't think ahead you won't be prepared for any problems that might come up. Sorry for being passionate about my car?
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No I'm not expecting serious problems, I never stated that. I'm expecting standard minor problems, you've heard of "hope for the best expect the worst"?i would rather be over prepared than underprepared for a daily driver car. If I'm going to be spending multiple thousands of dollars on a DD then yes, I have to take into account if it will keep me happy in the long run. If I get bored with it in 2 years I won't want to spend that kind of money.

I was simply referring to E85 as a long term goal, towards a kit that will provide OEM performance that should have come from factory, then a splash of E85 will remind me it's not from factory.

Drums of E85 came about because there is no E85 in the PNW, this if I want any I'd have to ship barrels in. Someone suggested an alternative being race gas instead of E85, referring to the long term goal of my opinion on how the OEM performance should have been, then reminding myself why it's not OEM.

You act like thinking ahead is a bad thing, yet most everyone tells me if you don't think ahead you won't be prepared for any problems that might come up. Sorry for being passionate about my car?
lol you sound like me! I am in the process of installing the AVO kit on my car and have had to stop myself from upgrading parts I've never even used yet. Not gonna lie, I BRIEFLY looked into what's involved in getting E85 up here in Canada before even firing up my car for the first time too haha.
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Typically, I can do it in 3 days, but I like taking extra precautions, so figure four days on the top end.
So we're talkin 1,000-1,500 for tuning charges?
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So we're talkin 1,000-1,500 for tuning charges?
Tuning is the easy fast(er) part. We're talking install time / labor here. Not tuning time. This kit doesn't go on by itself.


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Tuning is the easy fast(er) part. We're talking install time / labor here. Not tuning time. This kit doesn't go on by itself.
And if I was able to install it myself?

besides that, that's great news

being considered slightly crazy sometimes, I wonder how feasible it would be to magnetize the crap out of the parts, and the part locations, then throw them on and see if they stick...yes I am a little crazy, but I like to think outside of the box
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