Honestly why do people get a SC - Page 8 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

CSG Mike · 02-28-2014, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by phloozy

Honestly anyone who buys a SC must not have done their research. Every competitive tracked 86 uses a turbo. This car is meant for bursts of speed and a turbo just makes it better. I am with the OP, if you bought a SC you clearly bought the wrong car!

Not sure if srs..

def not srs.

:LOL:

AVOturboworld · 02-28-2014, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by phloozy

fyi I was being sarcastic. I am pretty sure most the competitive track cars are supercharged :P

Don't tell that to the WRC, Super GT, D1, FD, Indycar, or F1 folks. Or any of the time attack series worldwide.

Drag racing in the US, I'll agree that there is possibly more superchargers.

phloozy · 02-28-2014, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AVOturboworld

Don't tell that to the WRC, Super GT, D1, FD, Indycar, or F1 folks. Or any of the time attack series worldwide.

Drag racing in the US, I'll agree that there is possibly more superchargers.

You are right I didnt mean track cars, I meant tracked 86s. Not saying anything against turbos, it's just my understanding that most full time track 86s are SC.

woode · 02-28-2014, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by phloozy

You are right I didnt mean track cars, I meant tracked 86s. Not saying anything against turbos, it's just my understanding that most full time track 86s are SC.

I would attribute that to the fact that supercharger kits are easier to design quickly. The 86 is a new platform, and solid turbo kit designs are just starting to come out.

Personally, I like turbos. If I were to go supercharger, it would be a twin-screw.. but I feel like I would never be satisfied with the top end.

phloozy · 02-28-2014, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by woode

I would attribute that to the fact that supercharger kits are easier to design quickly. The 86 is a new platform, and solid turbo kit designs are just starting to come out.

Personally, I like turbos. If I were to go supercharger, it would be a twin-screw.. but I feel like I would never be satisfied with the top end.

possibly

CSG Mike · 02-28-2014, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AVOturboworld

Don't tell that to the WRC, Super GT, D1, FD, Indycar, or F1 folks. Or any of the time attack series worldwide.

Drag racing in the US, I'll agree that there is possibly more superchargers.

Apples and oranges.

You might as well say that we should all be running open exhausts, race fuel, v8/v6, etc.

AVOturboworld · 02-28-2014, 10:41 PM

Competitive racing tends to involve a lot of that, yes. I held a A racing license in Japan for for nearly 10 years.

SmsAlSuwaidi · 02-28-2014, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVOturboworld

Don't tell that to the WRC, Super GT, D1, FD, Indycar, or F1 folks. Or any of the time attack series worldwide.

Drag racing in the US, I'll agree that there is possibly more superchargers.

Supercharging is dying even in drag racing expect NHRA

In a few years superchargers will be something of the past as a turbo do everything a sc does, and even better

Sent from my IBrick

smbstyle · 03-01-2014, 11:58 AM

I thought I read somewhere the issues with tracking turbo cars vs. supercharged cars is the much higher EGT's you'll get with the turbo setup?

Regardless of the difference in power delivery on turbo vs. S/C, for a track application, what are the benefits/downfalls of a turbo? am I right on the EGT issue? @CSG Mike ?

DJCarbine · 03-01-2014, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi

Supercharging is dying even in drag racing expect NHRA

In a few years superchargers will be something of the past as a turbo do everything a sc does, and even better

Sent from my IBrick

OEM? Sure

Aftermarket? Not so sure

Alltezza · 03-01-2014, 01:33 PM

Wouldn't another reason why people get superchargers are to pass emissions?
At least that's one of the main reasons why I'm considering a SC. Unless there's a way to pass emissions with a turbo lol please let me know lol I live in Tennessee

WolfsFang · 03-01-2014, 02:23 PM

SC > turbo for auto x

Victor Draken · 03-01-2014, 04:15 PM

Arent most of the best sport car aspirated high revving?

I always loved a good N/A beast, would drive it all day long.

Rayme · 03-01-2014, 06:34 PM

And why do people go turbo instead of something like an LS swap? Cheap and reliable and the fa20 will bring you in a couple thousand back.

All kind of ways to make your car go fast.

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smbstyle Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ Location: Forsyth, GA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 224 Thanked 681 Times in 302 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s)	I thought I read somewhere the issues with tracking turbo cars vs. supercharged cars is the much higher EGT's you'll get with the turbo setup? Regardless of the difference in power delivery on turbo vs. S/C, for a track application, what are the benefits/downfalls of a turbo? am I right on the EGT issue? @CSG Mike ? __________________ ----------------------------------- 2013 SWP BRZ Build Thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38781

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WolfsFang Scrape Master Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Goal: Oldest FRS State Side Location: North NJ Posts: 1,161 Thanks: 238 Thanked 412 Times in 238 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s)	SC > turbo for auto x __________________ You do realize comparing the BRZ to the FR-S is like comparing which hand you love masterbating too right?

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Victor Draken Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: Toyota Gt86 Location: Italy Posts: 370 Thanks: 119 Thanked 61 Times in 40 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s)	Arent most of the best sport car aspirated high revving? I always loved a good N/A beast, would drive it all day long. __________________

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Rayme The Answer Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: Mazda 2 Location: Moncton, NB Posts: 1,233 Thanks: 488 Thanked 661 Times in 315 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s)	And why do people go turbo instead of something like an LS swap? Cheap and reliable and the fa20 will bring you in a couple thousand back. All kind of ways to make your car go fast. __________________ \| Roof wrap thread

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