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The Robot Cow · 02-26-2012, 12:27 PM

Just an idea. You could get the supra and rebuild everything to make it like new but then again imagine how much all this must cost if you want it done right?

tranzformer · 02-26-2012, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Robot Cow

Just an idea. You could get the supra and rebuild everything to make it like new but then again imagine how much all this must cost if you want it done right?

Ask Guff. He knows the answer.

Guff · 02-26-2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer

Ask Guff. He knows the answer.

Lol...

Make it like new? A lot of money. A LOT!

But you could pick up a reliable TT Auto (maybe a manual if youre lucky) for like 20k, with 100k or so miles. Then spend 5-6k going Single and you have a 500hp street beast that will last you another 100k miles at least.

But only if that's what you're into... I'd rather have a BRZ Limited...

Vasilis · 02-26-2012, 06:02 PM

or you can spend that money making it into a manual and do suspension/brakes/tires+wheel mods and make it handle quite good.

Stock it has more than enough power, maybe BPU and be done with it. Focus more on making it grip

supramaster12 · 02-26-2012, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vasilis

or you can spend that money making it into a manual and do suspension/brakes/tires+wheel mods and make it handle quite good.

Stock it has more than enough power, maybe BPU and be done with it. Focus more on making it grip

yea but supras handle very well in stock form also 98g's on a skidpad is more than good. also i really like the fd's my friend has one, twin turbo running bout 300hp or so he says but ive driven it and its pretty fast. ive seen a couple here for round 13k to 15k for a nice one, definitly a car i would like to have. one of the sexiest cars out there but very rare here at least in florida.

markyp85 · 02-27-2012, 12:46 AM

instead of one or the other, why not get the fr-s ,ofcourse, and instead of the supra do a sc3/400 with a 1jz or 2jz supra swap? then you can have your cake and eat it too.

Guff · 02-27-2012, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by markyp85

instead of one or the other, why not get the fr-s ,ofcourse, and instead of the supra do a sc3/400 with a 1jz or 2jz supra swap? then you can have your cake and eat it too.

Lol, I would LOVE to see somebody try to fit a 2J into this car...

Nafe · 02-27-2012, 09:05 AM

I think he actually meant putting the 1/2j in the z30..
A 2j would destroy the 86

tripjammer · 02-27-2012, 01:11 PM

The FR-S\BRZ is the perfect bridge car. There will be a new Mazda RX7, Acura NSX, Nissan Z35, Corvette C7, and Toyota Supra in 3 to 4 years time, if you get bored with the FR-S\BRZ. But also remember by then gas could be $6 to $7 a gallon....and all of those except for the Z, RX7, and Supra are going to be well over $45k...

The hope is that Nissan brings back the Silvia. Honda the Integra and the S2000. Subaru a Coupe version of the WRX\STI (poor mans GTR). And whoever can make a lightweight RWD or AWD coupe for cheap.

Crashoverride · 02-27-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Guff

Lol, I would LOVE to see somebody try to fit a 2J into this car...

It might work, looks like someone is sticking a V8 in one, a 2j is right along the same lines...

marshallpre1 · 02-27-2012, 05:23 PM

I'm looking very closely at the FR-S as my next car. However, having owned a Supra for 4 trouble free years now, I have come to realize that even though it is not new, for the same price bracket, it's a fantastic alternative.

Surely, they are not made for the same purpose, but it's hard not to want to buy another one. I think I can find the same satisfaction (lightweight, nimble, etc) if I can find a clean 1J S14 with working heat and A/C (I've owned an RB S13 before)....

supramaster12 · 02-27-2012, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Guff

Lol, I would LOVE to see somebody try to fit a 2J into this car...

yea i would love to see that too, but im pretty sure that would mess with the balance of the car. not to mention how low the hood is ont this car and how low the engine would have to sit. cant wait to see how this new engine is gonna handle hp.

Crashoverride · 03-01-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Vasilis

BTW: I have a question for you guys, do you get any taxation on your car per year depending on displacement or anything else?
Because here we get like $800 USD for a 3.0L engine car (Supra) versus $300 USD for a 2.0L engine PER YEAR - Rotary cars get a $74 tax/year

...!

Nope, but you are right the supra does hold it's value pretty well.

markyp85 · 03-01-2012, 02:01 PM

Guys I'm not saying put a 2 jz in the frs I'm saying that u can bolt a jz motor into a lex sc300. Also suspension, brakes and drivetrain parts are interchangeable. Could build a single turbo monster for a fraction of the cost of a supra and insure for dirt cheap. Then he also can buy a frs with left over cash

02-26-2012, 12:27 PM	#57
The Robot Cow Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 1985 Corolla Gt-s coupe Location: United States Posts: 117 Thanks: 6 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just an idea. You could get the supra and rebuild everything to make it like new but then again imagine how much all this must cost if you want it done right? __________________ 1985 Corolla Gt-s

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marshallpre1 Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 97 Supra TT, 04 G35 Coupe, 94 SC300 Location: NY Posts: 13 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm looking very closely at the FR-S as my next car. However, having owned a Supra for 4 trouble free years now, I have come to realize that even though it is not new, for the same price bracket, it's a fantastic alternative. Surely, they are not made for the same purpose, but it's hard not to want to buy another one. I think I can find the same satisfaction (lightweight, nimble, etc) if I can find a clean 1J S14 with working heat and A/C (I've owned an RB S13 before).... __________________ 2004 G35 Coupe- Brembo pkg- track day/daily 2010 G37X Sedan- Wife's 1997 Supra TT- PT67\|Vi-pec\|V160\|SSR\|HKS\|etc

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Vasilis Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: RX8 Location: Cyprus Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	or you can spend that money making it into a manual and do suspension/brakes/tires+wheel mods and make it handle quite good. Stock it has more than enough power, maybe BPU and be done with it. Focus more on making it grip

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markyp85 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 05 evo, 98 240sx turbo Location: clifton nj Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	instead of one or the other, why not get the fr-s ,ofcourse, and instead of the supra do a sc3/400 with a 1jz or 2jz supra swap? then you can have your cake and eat it too.

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Nafe Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Mt Fuji Red 86 GT Location: Brisbane Posts: 888 Thanks: 9 Thanked 109 Times in 86 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I think he actually meant putting the 1/2j in the z30.. A 2j would destroy the 86

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