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Mr.EvoMR · 01-08-2014, 08:46 PM

Same shit here 4,900 miles on mine. I put the key in, turn it and it struggles to start for about 5-10 seconds then finally starts up. Happened to me a bunch of times in cold and hot weather...embarrassing at times, as it is a brand new car

jonbonazza · 01-08-2014, 08:55 PM

4500 miles and no start issues, even with a lightweight battery.

FirestormFRS · 01-08-2014, 09:09 PM

Cars start precisely when they should. Really 5-10 seconds of cranking isn't a big deal.

Mr.EvoMR · 01-08-2014, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FirestormFRS

Cars start precisely when they should. Really 5-10 seconds of cranking isn't a big deal.

I hope so...but in the moment it feels and seems very abnormal. Car shakes a little, everything that lights up(speedometer, radio, a/c knobs, etc) kind of dampens as if there isnt enough power, then it starts and it runs fine..

QuikSilveRX-8 · 01-09-2014, 04:21 AM

Check and clean the terminals. would be wise to check what is the Cold Cranking Amps of the battery, as well.

Muskokan · 01-09-2014, 07:58 AM

This happened once in the fall to me, 2nd try was good. Maybe a total of 10 seconds of crank before she turned over. I don't think it's the cold because it's been consistently under -25 here and hasn't happened since. Mt limited.

Nevermore · 01-17-2014, 10:11 PM

Had the car over a year now and it would rarely have an issue where it would take a couple extra cranks and stutter in low rpms at start up before moving up to normal levels. It only happened occasionally. Although now with this cold weather it's been doing it frequently. Yesterday and today it took three tries, strong cranks but no start until the third try, and very stuttery.

humfrz · 01-18-2014, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Nevermore

Had the car over a year now and it would rarely have an issue where it would take a couple extra cranks and stutter in low rpms at start up before moving up to normal levels. It only happened occasionally. Although now with this cold weather it's been doing it frequently. Yesterday and today it took three tries, strong cranks but no start until the third try, and very stuttery.

You aren't pushing on the gas pedal before cranking, out of habit, are you .. ??

You might try changing gas stations (or at least pumps).

AVodka14 · 01-18-2014, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bristecom

The Evo X came with those same Panasonic batteries and we had problems starting almost every car with them. When we replaced them with an Optima battery, the problem was solved. I'm not sure if it really is the battery but having worked for a dealer that dealt with those batteries, I wouldn't be surprised.

I have an original Panasonic battery in my 2005 tC. Yeah, it is a 9 year old battery. Even had no problems firing up the car last week during the Polar Vortex.

Just an FYI that not all Panasonic batteries perform poorly.

AVodka14 · 01-18-2014, 12:43 AM

My FRS has done this once. I think it's something electronic in nature. Not mechanical.

Nevermore · 01-18-2014, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz

You aren't pushing on the gas pedal before cranking, out of habit, are you .. ??

You might try changing gas stations (or at least pumps).

Never touch the gas when starting the car. I did put some shell v power in it just to see. I'm sitting at the dealership to get a diagnosis too.

sofrsnsokleen · 01-18-2014, 03:49 PM

It actually happened to me as well yesterday. I drive an auto as well. It'd happened a good while back too. I think it happens when you don't turn the ignition to where the needles flick on first and then crank it. i admit i started it really quickly yesterday, when normally i let the injectors prime first.

stugray · 01-18-2014, 03:55 PM

This has never happened to me and I have BRZ w/ push button start and 15000 miles.
It starts every time in less than 2 seconds even when -20deg F outside.

And for those thinking that holding the pedal down might cause it to flood: This car is drive by wire.
The ECU likely ignores the position of the gas pedal until the engine is out of the "start state".

If the engineers did not write the code to work this way, they they should be fired.

Nevermore · 01-18-2014, 05:47 PM

Dealership found nothing wrong. The tech suggested a fuel intake cleaner but was hesitant to endorse it fully because he wasn't sure how it would work on a boxer engine. Thoughts?

01-09-2014, 04:21 AM	#117
QuikSilveRX-8 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: SE3P Location: Boondocks, CA Posts: 430 Thanks: 232 Thanked 382 Times in 217 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Check and clean the terminals. would be wise to check what is the Cold Cranking Amps of the battery, as well. __________________ Three moving engine parts, yet complicated... Or do I mean complex?

01-17-2014, 10:11 PM	#119
Nevermore Wayward Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Hot Lava 86 Location: Bust of Pallas Posts: 3,336 Thanks: 1,669 Thanked 2,312 Times in 1,386 Posts Mentioned: 50 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Had the car over a year now and it would rarely have an issue where it would take a couple extra cranks and stutter in low rpms at start up before moving up to normal levels. It only happened occasionally. Although now with this cold weather it's been doing it frequently. Yesterday and today it took three tries, strong cranks but no start until the third try, and very stuttery. __________________

01-18-2014, 05:47 PM	#126
Nevermore Wayward Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Hot Lava 86 Location: Bust of Pallas Posts: 3,336 Thanks: 1,669 Thanked 2,312 Times in 1,386 Posts Mentioned: 50 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Dealership found nothing wrong. The tech suggested a fuel intake cleaner but was hesitant to endorse it fully because he wasn't sure how it would work on a boxer engine. Thoughts? __________________

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Mr.EvoMR Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion Fr-s Location: Richland,WA Posts: 26 Thanks: 262 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Same shit here 4,900 miles on mine. I put the key in, turn it and it struggles to start for about 5-10 seconds then finally starts up. Happened to me a bunch of times in cold and hot weather...embarrassing at times, as it is a brand new car

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FirestormFRS Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Anytown Posts: 920 Thanks: 73 Thanked 643 Times in 302 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Cars start precisely when they should. Really 5-10 seconds of cranking isn't a big deal.

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Muskokan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: white Sport-tech Location: Ontario Posts: 676 Thanks: 204 Thanked 320 Times in 149 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	This happened once in the fall to me, 2nd try was good. Maybe a total of 10 seconds of crank before she turned over. I don't think it's the cold because it's been consistently under -25 here and hasn't happened since. Mt limited.

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AVodka14 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 Raven FRS MT Location: KY Posts: 857 Thanks: 351 Thanked 302 Times in 185 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My FRS has done this once. I think it's something electronic in nature. Not mechanical.

01-18-2014, 03:49 PM	#124
sofrsnsokleen GEARS!!??? Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: raven black 2013 scion fr-s Location: the southeast side of san antonio, where the players play! Posts: 202 Thanks: 30 Thanked 64 Times in 36 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It actually happened to me as well yesterday. I drive an auto as well. It'd happened a good while back too. I think it happens when you don't turn the ignition to where the needles flick on first and then crank it. i admit i started it really quickly yesterday, when normally i let the injectors prime first.

01-18-2014, 03:55 PM	#125
stugray Banned Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2013 GBS BRZ Limited Location: Colorado Posts: 1,925 Thanks: 627 Thanked 1,445 Times in 711 Posts Mentioned: 41 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This has never happened to me and I have BRZ w/ push button start and 15000 miles. It starts every time in less than 2 seconds even when -20deg F outside. And for those thinking that holding the pedal down might cause it to flood: This car is drive by wire. The ECU likely ignores the position of the gas pedal until the engine is out of the "start state". If the engineers did not write the code to work this way, they they should be fired.

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