Not so slow

[k.houan]

How would you guys think a brz would do against my gf's 05 is300 auto? Lol

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[Trmx2]

Originally Posted by horrorbiz

This is a sports car. Take it to a track with decent tires and it will out perform the WRX and MS3 (as proven in a magazine article I cannot remember at the moment). Both of those cars would embarrass the Camry. This is a pointless conversation. The 86 is also terrible at driving through mud in the woods.

The mud in the woods line made me lol

I agree with everything you said, this is a true sports car meant for track/high performance driving. It's not a stop light racer.

This is the similar arguments that people with sports motorbikes have. The Yamaha R6 for instance (a great bike) kind of sucks on the street because it's meant for straight up track time. People would complain because it's not a rocket from stop light to stop light.

[Trmx2]

Originally Posted by k.houan

How would you guys think a brz would do against my gf's 05 is300 auto? Lol

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2001 Lexus IS 300 0-60 mph 7.5 Quarter mile 15.1

Our car would smoke it.

[Trmx2]

Idk about you guys but the fastest time I've ever gotten was 5.886 sec 0-60 on an average day I do about 6.012 sec 0-60 I have a really high-tech GPS/Speed watch that I used for cycling, it is very accurate. Maybe the low elevation, Miami air is better for the car? I also don't weight much and have nothing in my car except the stock components, I do have a performance filter and intake tube though....but I don't think that gives that much of a boost.

[BRZJunkie]

Funny!

Personnaly, I prefer to see the runaway Camrys in front of me in fear they ram me at the first corner or stop sign. They would be out of control whereas the BRZ is totally at ease at the limit.

[Gearbanger]

If I lost to a Camry Id kill myself.

[gily25]

Owners dwelling on this car being considered "slow" don't know why this car is relevant to the sport car genre. For those who want to whine and complain, realize that "entry level" denotes a tiered structure and you should be considering your future mid-level purchase.

Also worth noting, I was embarassed for the FR-S in my area that I embarassed when I buzzed him at the light. Not sure wtf he was doing to get off the line, but he was moving slow as hell so I zipped around him. Learn how to drive people...entry level cars are for learning the skills so you don't f*k a 6 figure car.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by horrorbiz

This is a sports car. Take it to a track with decent tires and it will out perform the WRX and MS3 (as proven in a magazine article I cannot remember at the moment). Both of those cars would embarrass the Camry. This is a pointless conversation. The 86 is also terrible at driving through mud in the woods.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/special-...transformation

Problem with this article is that they didn't put comparable tires on the Mazda or WRX so it's nice to know the car is more capable but it's up in the air if you slap some sticky rubber onto the other two if the Toyobaru still comes out on top.

Worth noting though is how a magazine test isn't really science (more akin to Mythbusters than reliable data), the Michelins still pull a skidpad number as good as the other two (the magic is in the chassis) and stickier tires didn't help the 0-60 of the FRS.

[mike_ekim1024]

Originally Posted by tennisfreak

My car feels fast enough and certainly not slow.

What makes the car feel bad is the damn torque dip.
So drivers who have no clue how to drive their car and keep it above the torque dip are going to say the car is slow.

Honestly once you get past the torque dip and keep the car between 5-7krpm its pretty nice.

I keep eying the supercharger since now many are CARB legal, but like you said, 5k-7k it does pull in 2nd and 3rd. I have intake, exhaust and a tune so the torque dip is pretty much gone. It's only when I'm casually canyoning between 3k-5k that it'd be nice to have a bit more torque.

[horrorbiz]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

http://www.roadandtrack.com/special-...transformation

Problem with this article is that they didn't put comparable tires on the Mazda or WRX so it's nice to know the car is more capable but it's up in the air if you slap some sticky rubber onto the other two if the Toyobaru still comes out on top.

Worth noting though is how a magazine test isn't really science (more akin to Mythbusters than reliable data), the Michelins still pull a skidpad number as good as the other two (the magic is in the chassis) and stickier tires didn't help the 0-60 of the FRS.

I agree for the most part, however the tires that come on the WRX and MS3 are in a different class than the 86 tires. The direzzas are closer to the WRX and Ms3 tires than the 86 tires.

[yohan04]

Originally Posted by Trmx2

Someone in a V6 accord would most likely have the A/C blasting, be driving an A/T and not know how to drive....I think our car would smoke it.

Originally Posted by Trmx2

2001 Lexus IS 300 0-60 mph 7.5 Quarter mile 15.1

Our car would smoke it.

Sorry, your FRS won't able to "smoke" none of those cars. Actually, the IS300 probably would be dead even.

...unless you have mad shifting skillz. Then you can probably smoke Z06s and GTR's.

[Trmx2]

Originally Posted by yohan04

Sorry, your FRS won't able to "smoke" none of those cars. Actually, the IS300 probably would be dead even.

...unless you have mad shifting skillz. Then you can probably smoke Z06s and GTR's.

0-60 time for the IS300 is slower than the manual FRS, as tested by Subaru and Toyota. The number don't lie.

A V6 Accord is not faster than the FRS...this one > 2012 Honda Accord EX 0-60 mph 6.1 is dead even with the manual Toe into the accelerator, though, and the grunt is immediate and immersive. With the traction and stability control systems left on, the big sedan simply punches a hole in the atmosphere with no drama and practically no noise. Switch the nannies off and pedal it a bit, and it delivers you to 60 mph in 6.1 seconds (or 5.7 seconds with 1 foot of rollout as on a drag strip). The quarter-mile goes by in a swift 14.3 seconds at 98.1 mph. As quoted by Edmunds.....notice the "roll-out" 0-60 is the 5.7 mark, not the standard 0-60.

and here's the rest:
2013 Honda Accord Sport Sedan (Manual) 0-60 mph 6.7 Quarter Mile 15.1 (slower)
2013 Honda Accord Sport Sedan (CVT) 0-60 mph 7.5 Quarter Mile 15.7
2013 Honda Accord Sport Sedan (Manual) 0-60 mph 6.5 Quarter Mile 15.0

These are all factory tested 0-60 times, so please tell me the Accord is faster.....I'm all ears.

Also, Z06 and GTR's did I ever make that claim? I don't think so....

[Trmx2]

Originally Posted by yohan04

Sorry, your FRS won't able to "smoke" none of those cars. Actually, the IS300 probably would be dead even.

...unless you have mad shifting skillz. Then you can probably smoke Z06s and GTR's.

And just for some further reading direct from Edmunds.

"Not only are these outstanding numbers for a family sedan, they represent a huge improvement over the previous-generation Accord V6 sedan, which took 7.0 seconds to reach 60 and covered the quarter-mile in 15.3 seconds at 95.4 mph. They're also right in line with the V6-equipped 2013 Nissan Altima, which turned in a 6.2-second 0-60 time (5.8 with rollout) and a 14.3-second quarter-mile at 99.8 mph."

[yohan04]

Originally Posted by Trmx2

0-60 time for the IS300 is slower than the manual FRS, as tested by Subaru and Toyota. The number don't lie.

A V6 Accord is not faster than the FRS...this one >2012 Honda Accord EX 0-60 mph 6.1 is dead even with the manual

Contradictions much?

Either way, this is benchracing at it's finest.

In the REAL WORLD, unless you're launch this car perfectly (high revs, no torque, shit tires -- not the easiest to do), limit your wheelspin and nail your shifts perfectly, then perhaps you can pull off the times based on the Car and Driver, assuming you're STIG behind the wheel.


All the driver gotta do in the V6 Accord is just mash on his gas and wonder how great his 98.1 mph trap speed as he blow past you.


Oh and that slow IS300 you were talking about? AFAIK, Twins and IS300 have similar trap speed.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtgx4UFHfYY"]Scion FR-S Vs. Lexus IS300 Race#6 - YouTube[/ame]

They race 6 times and the outcomes are CONSISTENT (depending which car has passenger). Hmmmm.....

Not try to be a ****, guess I'm just butt-hurt from being raped by a rental mustang And who honestly cares about 0-60 times really?