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SF-FRS · 07-10-2012, 03:03 PM

Does anyone know why it takes TRD sooooo long to introduce products for our car????

rscott22 · 07-10-2012, 03:12 PM

They are always slow! They were slow back in the 90's when they introduced products for the supra and GT-4.

phattyduck · 07-10-2012, 03:20 PM

Because they don't actually make any parts? (all contracted work with other companies)

-Charlie

86_ZN6 · 07-10-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by phattyduck

Because they don't actually make any parts? (all contracted work with other companies)

-Charlie

true for TRD USA

TRD japan is a different story. all made in house!

colHolm · 07-10-2012, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SF-FRS

Does anyone know why it takes TRD sooooo long to introduce products for our car????

The reason it takes so long is because final testing for all the parts must be completed on production vehiclces - not prototypes or early build units. Also, the results of these tests must be submitted to and approved by TMC and other regulatory compliance bodies as many TRD parts can be installed on the vehicle prior to delivery and financed with the vehicle.

This process can often take months, and production on the parts cannot start until the approvals have been given.

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Originally Posted by 86_ZN6

TRD japan is a different story. all made in house!

Not totally true... Also, the approval process for accessories are different in Japan versus NA.

Jeff Lange · 07-10-2012, 03:44 PM

TRD USA / Canada often outsources their performance parts to aftermarket companies to develop/manufacture parts for the North American market. TRD Japan typically uses more of the OEM-manufacturers to develop their parts to TRD's specs. TRD USA / Canada sometimes uses the TRD Japan parts as well.

TRD Japan's parts typically have a more "original" feel and quality to the parts, while TRD USA's feel more like aftermarket parts.

Jeff

86_ZN6 · 07-10-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by colHolm

Not totally true... Also, the approval process for accessories are different in Japan versus NA.

have you been to TRD headquarters in japan? i have and they make their parts on site

Jeff Lange · 07-10-2012, 03:56 PM

I guess that's the biggest difference to TRD USA versus TRD Japan, while they both do get other companies to manufacture the parts in the end (frequently with Japan using OE companies), TRD Japan does more in-house development of the parts, while TRD USA outsources both the development and the manufacturing (still to Toyota/TRD's specs, but it's different).

Jeff

Hanakuso · 07-10-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 86_ZN6

have you been to TRD headquarters in japan? i have and they make their parts on site

I would say a majority of the R&D and production is inhouse but i'm willing to bet a good handful is outsourced. Look at wheels for example, Nismo, Mazdaspeed, TRD wheels. All of those are outsourced

86_ZN6 · 07-10-2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanakuso

I would say a majority of the R&D and production is inhouse but i'm willing to bet a good handful is outsourced. Look at wheels for example, Nismo, Mazdaspeed, TRD wheels. All of those are outsourced

yeah maybe not all parts. but majority.

when i went there for a tour, there was production line of springs, strut bars and other stiffeners

Snoopyalien24 · 07-10-2012, 04:11 PM

Because they want to release a great product which takes time to do and engineer

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