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Old 02-29-2012, 12:27 AM   #15
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1'07.4 isn't bad for Coils, Brakes, Exhaust, & spoiler upgrades...
so with basic mods, and still probably under 210hp it can beat cars with a lot more hp.
Definitely a capable track car in the right hands.

148. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IV GSR 1:08.81 108 '98 279 / 1352
149. Subaru WRX STI sedan 1:08.81 108 '10 300 / 1590
150. Honda S2000 Type V 1:08.87 108 0 243 / 1256
151. Nissan Silvia S15 Spec R Aero 1:08.89 108 '03 250 / 1250
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153. Nissan Skyline 350 GT 1:09.07 108 0 280 / 1528 Nakaya Akihiko
154. Honda Integra Type R DC2 late 1:09.16 108 '98 200 / 1120
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157. Porsche 911 Carrera 1:09.22 108 '88 250 / 1350
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159. Honda Integra Type R 1:09.34 107 '04 220 / 1190 Daisuke Ito
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Old 02-29-2012, 12:32 AM   #16
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Are those black gauges an option? Want em! Looks so much better one color in my opinion
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Old 02-29-2012, 12:33 AM   #17
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so with basic mods, and still probably under 210hp it can beat cars with a lot more hp.
Definitely a capable track car in the right hands.
I think, NOB was saying 186whp... but yes, for Tsukuba track, this car is faster than some higher hp cars
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Old 02-29-2012, 12:37 AM   #18
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are there official times of a stock 86 for this track yet?

i'd imagine it would fall somewhere between these cars.

148. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IV GSR 1:08.81 108 '98 279 / 1352
149. Subaru WRX STI sedan 1:08.81 108 '10 300 / 1590
150. Honda S2000 Type V 1:08.87 108 0 243 / 1256
151. Nissan Silvia S15 Spec R Aero 1:08.89 108 '03 250 / 1250
152. Nissan 350Z Roadster 1:08.94 108 '03 280 / 1635
153. Nissan Skyline 350 GT 1:09.07 108 0 280 / 1528 Nakaya Akihiko
154. Honda Integra Type R DC2 late 1:09.16 108 '98 200 / 1120
155. BMW 130i 1:09.18 108 '05 258 / 1450
156. Honda Integra Type-R E-DC2 1:09.20 108 '95 200 / 1060
157. Porsche 911 Carrera 1:09.22 108 '88 250 / 1350
158. Renault Clio V6 Mk II 1:09.30 108 '03 250 / 1419
159. Honda Integra Type R 1:09.34 107 '04 220 / 1190 Daisuke Ito
I think you're shooting a little high. This car's best was 1:07:44 with brakes, exhaust, coils, spoiler/canards, and most importantly tires. I can see the tires shaving off 2 seconds alone. I'd guess 1:10:xx or slightly under 1:10.
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Old 02-29-2012, 12:42 AM   #19
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I think you're shooting a little high. This car's best was 1:07:44 with brakes, exhaust, coils, spoiler/canards, and most importantly tires. I can see the tires shaving off 2 seconds alone. I'd guess 1:10:xx or slightly under 1:10.
you don't see this car beating the type R? more or less the same specs but different drivetrain, fwd vs rwd. you think that R had sticky tires or something?
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Fwd vs rwd isn't a disadvantage to the type R as it's one of the best handling fwd cars ever made. It'll also put more power to the ground being fwd and yes they do come with sticky tires when compared to the 86.
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Every car on that list also has better power/weight than the 86
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Fwd vs rwd isn't a disadvantage to the type R as it's one of the best handling fwd cars ever made. It'll also put more power to the ground being fwd and yes they do come with sticky tires when compared to the 86.
then i wonder what the results would be if they had identical tires. maybe the BRZ would have an advantage due to lower center of gravity? i'm also assuming the gearing would play a big part in this as well.

it looks like the DC2R weighs 40kg less than the BRZ, assuming the BRZ is 1230kg.
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then i wonder what the results would be if they had identical tires. maybe the BRZ would have an advantage due to lower center of gravity? i'm also assuming the gearing would play a big part in this as well.

it looks like the DC2R weighs 40kg less than the BRZ, assuming the BRZ is 1230kg.
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If you're talking about this one, it looks to be a DC5R. I gave the weight for the RC trim at 1180kg for the best possible power/weight of all trims.
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Do you guys have any idea how thick the spacer might be? Thanks!
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Prob 20mm-ish...
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K, not gonna translate word for word. I gonna point out important stuff

NOB feedback driving GT86
*It was fun to driver than I've expected
*It lack power... Because it's light weight so it's cornering is good, traction is good, braking is good... but it lack acceleration.
*It makes me want to go one more lap, one more lap into the track.
*If there isn't any car to compete against it'll be fun car to drive.
*If there's some car you compete against, it lack acceleration, so maybe get taken over in straight line.
*This car is a great car... but after driving for a while, you might get bored of this car.
*If you think of this car is base of tuning car, is totally okay. Reason is, recent car is only heavy weight cars. Car that lack power to add power is easy, but but to make heavy car lighter is extremely difficult thing to do. This car's selling point is "Lightweight", so put (HKS) parts into this car, it'll be perfect car.

HKS Coilovers - Changed the spring rate to F8/R6 to F7/R5
*F8/R6 felt great
*F7/R5 had extra roll, but other than that it felt the same
*Go w F8/R6 or F7/R5 either one work fine
*Because this car name is "86", so I know someone gonna say F8/R6 is better... Yeah, I'm talking about "You"!

For car that lack power, time was good
*Overall balance was great
*Lightweight is a weapon
*Back straight was slow (Top speed 153km/h)
*It lacked top speed, but rest of the areas was high/fast.
*Overall balance was great, so go into corner was a fun
*straight line was very lacking

Bugs - Not 100% sure yet, but...
*Turned off VSC & TCS and test ran it, but it didn't turn it off at all, & it's getting in my way driving.
*I don't like electrical devices, so had to take off the fuse & it fully turn off those systems.
*When that happens, not only VSC & TCS turns off, but also ABS turns off, so braking become a bit nervus.
*They should only cut VSC & TCS only, instead of all 3 electrical devices.
*They should look into more to fix this bug

ABS necessary?
*I don't need it, but for other people, they should have it
*For drifting ABS isn't necessary at all. Don't need VSC, TCS or ABS

Current mods on this car is
*Coilovers
*Tires
*Brakes
*Exhaust
*Spoiler & Canard
*Bucket seats

Future HKS mods for GT86
*Keep the engine & make a parts that everyone can tune
*NOB: No, don't need everyone to make sameone. I want you to make hellova engine
*HKS: Gonna make engine that everyone can do and it'll be aggressive engine.
*NOB: I want 600hp from this car
*HKS: ...600hp? I'll keep that in mind

K, hope that helped some of non-Japanese speaking 86 fans out there :happy0180:

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I pray to god this isn't true.
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