300+ WHP Innovate Supercharger, Stock Injectors, E85 and EcuTeK

[DeliciousTuning]

Originally Posted by mad_sb

Are you bumping into the 200g/s maf limit by chance? You should be getting close if not over.. but I would imagine you have already raised that limit though.

You are correct. I am hitting about 200g/s and using the OE MAF scaling, so that I know if all the cars I have tuned are within spec. It has worked out well, that when the values are low (by 10%) at sea level usually there is a small leak somewhere and makes it easy to determine remotely.

Cheers,
William Knose

[DeliciousTuning]

Originally Posted by evo4g63

@DeliciousTuning what is the max you have seen on this kit with e85 and no IC?

Like DriftEm showed it is about 250, though with the IC you can push it to about 265 which is over 300 whp on a dynojet. So the IC does help.

[SpeedR]

Your graph says flywheel HP and TQ not Wheel HP and TQ.

[OmarGC]

What were your IAT's? Post IC/blower

[phloozy]

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning

Like DriftEm showed it is about 250, though with the IC you can push it to about 265 which is over 300 whp on a dynojet. So the IC does help.

Right now im running the non-ic innovate with a 70mm pulley and no other power mods. I feel bad asking because you arent my tuner but if you dont mind what would you suggest would be a good next step in power from your experience? Headers + Frontpipe? Intake? IC?

[xxscaxx]

Originally Posted by phloozy

Right now im running the non-ic innovate with a 70mm pulley and no other power mods. I feel bad asking because you arent my tuner but if you dont mind what would you suggest would be a good next step in power from your experience? Headers + Frontpipe? Intake? IC?

I'm not Bill but figured i'd share my .02 cents lol. I'd go with the intercooler. Where do you live?

I also have non ic, 70mm pulley. I do have a full exhaust though. Right now the car is a beast because of the really cold temps in NY the past few days. When its hot out, the car is still great but if you consistently get into it you can just feel the car getting heat soaked and losing power.

Intercooler will keep you efficient, keep temps down, and you and your motor will benefit from it. My kit comes friday.

Other than that, I'd probably go with a header.

[phloozy]

Originally Posted by xxscaxx

I'm not Bill but figured i'd share my .02 cents lol. I'd go with the intercooler. Where do you live?

I also have non ic, 70mm pulley. I do have a full exhaust though. Right now the car is a beast because of the really cold temps in NY the past few days. When its hot out, the car is still great but if you consistently get into it you can just feel the car getting heat soaked and losing power.

Intercooler will keep you efficient, keep temps down, and you and your motor will benefit from it. My kit comes friday.

Other than that, I'd probably go with a header.

PA so we get the same weather. Are you running e85?

[xxscaxx]

Originally Posted by phloozy

PA so we get the same weather. Are you running e85?

no i'm on 93. But I will be getting an e85 tune as well when I hit the dyno in a couple weeks once I have everything together.

[phloozy]

Originally Posted by xxscaxx

no i'm on 93. But I will be getting an e85 tune as well when I hit the dyno in a couple weeks once I have everything together.

That makes sense then. It is my understanding that 93 has way more heat soak issues than e85. I am running e85 24/7 so thats why i question the need for an IC.

You are going to love e85 btw. Where in NY? I have been frequenting an e85 station in irvington recently.

[350matt]

I understand that you're on the stock injectors but has the in-tank pump been changed ?

[xxscaxx]

Originally Posted by phloozy

That makes sense then. It is my understanding that 93 has way more heat soak issues than e85. I am running e85 24/7 so thats why i question the need for an IC.

You are going to love e85 btw. Where in NY? I have been frequenting an e85 station in irvington recently.

I kind of figured you were going to say you were on e85 after asking me.. haha. I've talked to a few people and they still think that there will be benefits from the intercooler even with e85, i'm sure not as much as 93, but I will wait on an actual tuner to chime in on that.

There is only ONE e85 station near me, but luckily I pass it everyday on my way home from work haha.

I'm in orange county, near middletown.

Originally Posted by 350matt

I understand that you're on the stock injectors but has the in-tank pump been changed ?

I don't think this was quoted to me, probably to Bill, but I have changed my fuel pump, and am on stock injectors (for now).

[evo4g63]

@phloozy you and I have the same power mods minus the 70mm pulley. What are your numbers and if any what type of dyno?

[phloozy]

Originally Posted by evo4g63

@phloozy you and I have the same power mods minus the 70mm pulley. What are your numbers and if any what type of dyno?

No dyno yet It was road tuned by Mike at Moto-East. They just got a new dyno so hopefully I can get it to him soon and we can see some numbers.

[evo4g63]

Originally Posted by phloozy

No dyno yet It was road tuned by Mike at Moto-East. They just got a new dyno so hopefully I can get it to him soon and we can see some numbers.

Keep us posted, I am curious