CSG's Jackson Racing "Factory Tuned" Supercharger experience, updated 12/19/2013

[airmanmurphy02]

Originally Posted by Sellout

What's with the red light?

Shift light


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[CSG David]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

it sounds like you guys were taking it fairly easy in the accleration run. I timed it and it came out to just over 7 seconds dead 0-60.

I'm curious to see how much different it would be with a good lauch and faster shifts. 1st and 2nd gear didnt seem too much different from stock in that video. 3rd and 4th though you can tell.

That shifting method is a preventative measure to reduce DI seal wear.

Set the shift light at 3500 RPM for break-in, but haven't changed it since.

On a side note, we put over 100 miles on track yesterday.

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by CSG David

That shifting method is a preventative measure to reduce DI seal wear.

Is that still an issue with the updated tune? or is this more out of an abundance of caution based on your past experiences?

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

Is that still an issue with the updated tune? or is this more out of an abundance of caution based on your past experiences?

It is an abundance of caution based on past experience. There isn't much to gain from fast shifts, other than accelerated wear for a minor drop in lap times. Learning to shift properly without mashing on the gas also improves driving smoothness. In fact, Mike's driving has improved dramatically since we got CSG BRZ 1.0.

[jjkerr626]

I recently saw that ECUTek has some features on their tune that allow you to keep the throttle down while shifting, would this hurt the DI seals?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

it sounds like you guys were taking it fairly easy in the accleration run. I timed it and it came out to just over 7 seconds dead 0-60.

I'm curious to see how much different it would be with a good lauch and faster shifts. 1st and 2nd gear didnt seem too much different from stock in that video. 3rd and 4th though you can tell.

We're not intending to drag race... sorry! Someone else will have to do that video, but I'm sure it'll be done soon...

[Skyllz]

How long you expect the stock clutch to last? Street and mild track driving?

Reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally interested in this once I get my car out of storage in March(I cry myself to sleep every night, until I remember that my Yaris outside getting eaten by salt while my BRZ is tucked away in a heated garage).

[TylerLieberman]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

We're not intending to drag race... sorry! Someone else will have to do that video, but I'm sure it'll be done soon...

I understand that.

It's just that its a $5,000 modification and from that video, it doesn't APPEAR to be that much of a difference through the first couple gears. Hopefully somebody does a video where they go all out through the gears.

I don't drag race or anything either but with a bit of a launch and more expedited shifting, I think the difference between stock and this kit would be more apparent.

[TrogDor the Burninator]

If you were looking for just straight line speed you'd have to have a built engine or a swap really ...

On the track, you are going to spend most of your time in 3rd and 4th gear at 5k plus rpms ... downshifting to 2nd more rarely and hitting 5th gear if the track has some decent straights ... so the power band for Superchargers or Turbos works out nicely ... You are likely to be in a nice boost level all the way around the track ....

The advantage of the supercharger is the near immediate addition of increased power - albeit in a less dramatic fashion than a turbo. It's a predictable application of power, where as flooring a spooled up turbo can have you sideways before you know it lol.
The current superchargers all seem to stay within what seems to be a level of power the stock engine internals can handle. The clutch might not handle 280hp or more for any length of time. There's also a concern at that power level of the rear axles failing especially if you are lowered significantly ...

5k is a lot of money ... agreed ... But adding 80 to 100 HP to this car and its low weight makes a really quick car in the turns ...




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[ramiram1984]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

I understand that.

It's just that its a $5,000 modification and from that video, it doesn't APPEAR to be that much of a difference through the first couple gears. Hopefully somebody does a video where they go all out through the gears.

I don't drag race or anything either but with a bit of a launch and more expedited shifting, I think the difference between stock and this kit would be more apparent.

Dunno if you've seen this but this is on stock tires and recorded with iPhone
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=180

[F1point4]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I've solicited comparos with Vortech and Kraftwerks owners. They all declined. If any Vortech and Kraftwerks owners are interested, please let me know here, and we will cover your track day entry.

Please feel free to quote this post and tag owners that I may be unaware of.

If you volunteer your car, please know that I will be driving your car on track, while taking a full datalog. You are more than welcome to ride shotgun. We're more interested in the data, not lap times, as the lap times can have a large variance depending on the other modifications on your car.

I would volunteer my car, however we are not in the same region

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Skyllz

How long you expect the stock clutch to last? Street and mild track driving?

Reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally interested in this once I get my car out of storage in March(I cry myself to sleep every night, until I remember that my Yaris outside getting eaten by salt while my BRZ is tucked away in a heated garage).

If you're not slipping it, it should have no effect on the clutch's life. A clutch is either engaged, or not engaged (except when you're slipping it, or the clutch can't handle the torque), and neither of those two wear it.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by TrogDor the Burninator

5k is a lot of money ... agreed ... But adding 80 to 100 HP to this car and its low weight makes a really quick car in the turns ...

$5K gets you ~60hp.

Originally Posted by OICU812

@hamlet

Interesting review, realistic let's face it outsiders especially old dudes are pickier about the whole picture lol.

I still draw ire from my mother about the exhaust I had on the WRX.

[TrogDor the Burninator]

The dyno pasted in this thread showed 70 HP gain on a carb tune ... there's more there than 60 HP ....


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