NEW! FBM Cast Aluminum Oil Pan

[FullBlown]

Originally Posted by BRZPDX

can someone ELI5 this part for me? What are the overall benefits to changing in to this oil pan? My car is in the process of being FI'd right now, and this looks pretty cool. I want all the cooling possible for my oil.

Extra quart of oil, what is the benefit to it?
A marginal cooling effect, if its negligible, then what is the point?
Does this only work for FB turbo kit, or any FI in general that taps into the oil pan?

Our pan will work with any forced induction kits out there. The oil return port is universal and can be adapted to fit anything you want.

The baffle inside our pan is designed to keep the oil around the pick up under acceleration and turns.

The extra oil capacity along with the aluminum construction will help with oil temperature, because aluminum dissipates heat better than steel.

The heat sink design under the pan allows air to flow through and help cool the pan.

[WHITE]

10/10 will buy. Good job guys. Thank you.

[FullBlown]

Here is the comparison with an OEM pan

[LBC Por Siempre]

Originally Posted by FullBlown

I've never understood why weld-on fittings and pipes comes plated either.
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Or why some MASTER WELDERS don't grind down to smooth out the welds? The answer to that one is The Art in the weld.

[Dipstik-sportech]

There is, totally. The throat of the weld has to be a certain size to maintain the strength of the welded joint. Depending on the code per engineers drawing, if the throat of the weld is too small you need to add material for it to be acceptable by the inspector. You grind starts and stops , bad( like sharp) or deep profiles. Those are stress risers. A smooth even uniform weld is stronger by far. A ropey weld with craters and dents and shit will be full of weak sections and can crack under high stress applications

That's from a certified welder. That's why they don't grind them

the frozen north

[cf6mech]

Nice,....very nice,...you guys are heading off issues before they even arrive for most of us,....or have you figured this out already on a test bed car?,....I know oiling is or will be an issue with this engine as people start pushing its limits. Also the cooling benefits will be a big plus with the increased capacity and fins,...an issue well documented.

[Boxer486]

Cool stuff. Let us know if there are any weight savings too.

Got any pics of the baffle?

[LBC Por Siempre]

Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

There is, totally. The throat of the weld has to be a certain size to maintain the strength of the welded joint. Depending on the code per engineers drawing, if the throat of the weld is too small you need to add material for it to be acceptable by the inspector. You grind starts and stops , bad( like sharp) or deep profiles. Those are stress risers. A smooth even uniform weld is stronger by far. A ropey weld with craters and dents and shit will be full of weak sections and can crack under high stress applications

That's from a certified welder. That's why they don't grind them

the frozen north

I never knew that, but I've never taken a welding class or have been able to read welding schematics.

But I would rather have the weld look like a bunch on laid down nickels all lined up in a row flowing around the weld lines. Don't sand it down like some super-smooth connection.

I unlike a lot of others like the, really like, to see what made the product and there are many great machinist and welders out there. I would rather see the craftsmanship before it ever gets painted or plated; I would rather the bits and bobs not be painted or plated because to me it pays respect to the men and women who have worked their creations with their own hands!

[Calum]

Originally Posted by cf6mech

Nice,....very nice,...you guys are heading off issues before they even arrive for most of us,....or have you figured this out already on a test bed car?,....I know oiling is or will be an issue with this engine as people start pushing its limits. Also the cooling benefits will be a big plus with the increased capacity and fins,...an issue well documented.

Have you looked into the flow rate of the fa20 and fa20dit oil pumps?

[cf6mech]

Originally Posted by Calum

Have you looked into the flow rate of the fa20 and fa20dit oil pumps?

No I haven't,....what concerns me is sustained cornering forces and a momentary loss of oil pressure causing rod failure in a FI set up with this engine.....it was strongly suggested to me by Ken Stout if I cant afford a dry sump system to at least run a accusump system,...obviously they ran into oil scavenge issues.... Although I'm not Ken's son Robert racing this platform I do think this oil pan is a step in the right direction for sustained high G loads.

[BRZPDX]

Are there a dry sump system for the FA20? Or is this more of an universal application? Is the accusump much cheaper?

Originally Posted by cf6mech

No I haven't,....what concerns me is sustained cornering forces and a momentary loss of oil pressure causing rod failure in a FI set up with this engine.....it was strongly suggested to me by Ken Stout if I cant afford a dry sump system to at least run a accusump system,...obviously they ran into oil scavenge issues.... Although I'm not Ken's son Robert racing this platform I do think this oil pan is a step in the right direction for sustained high G loads.

[JP]

Originally Posted by BRZPDX

Are there a dry sump system for the FA20? Or is this more of an universal application? Is the accusump much cheaper?

Accusump is cheaper, but if you want a drysump contact these guys:


https://www.facebook.com/HypertuneAustralia


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This Pan is not a Sump correct?

[FullBlown]

No, we just added a baffle to help keep the oil around the pickup.