FBM Supra V160 6-Speed Conversion - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Frs300 · 12-13-2013, 09:26 PM

v161
First gear: 3.724:1
Second gear: 2.246:1
Third gear: 1.541:1
Fourth gear: 1.205:1
Fifth gear: 1:1
Sixth gear: 0.818:1

taylork057 · 12-13-2013, 10:42 PM

Why not just buy a quaife at this point. Only a few more dollars and a sequential trans. And why not base it off a much cheaper and easier trans to locate.. T56?

diss7 · 12-13-2013, 10:50 PM

You've obviously never driven a sequential. They're brutal.

Also, a quaife is no where near as strong or as streetable as a v16x.

A v16x conversion kit is a welcome product in my eyes. The box we're running isn't exactly going to be cheap to replace. I would wager you could find a v16x cheaper. Question is do you do it before or after blowing a box. If you do it before, you can always swap it back before selling the car.

I've never seen the point in intentionally blowing something up, when you're going to replace it. Pull the good unit out first and store/sell it.

slicktop · 12-13-2013, 11:01 PM

@FullBlown - is there no required firewall modifying? V160 is a big bitch

KAR · 12-13-2013, 11:23 PM

Oh nice, now if I dont find a use for my spare sup trans, it will go on the FRS

taylork057 · 12-13-2013, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diss7

You've obviously never driven a sequential. They're brutal.

Also, a quaife is no where near as strong or as streetable as a v16x.

A v16x conversion kit is a welcome product in my eyes. The box we're running isn't exactly going to be cheap to replace. I would wager you could find a v16x cheaper. Question is do you do it before or after blowing a box. If you do it before, you can always swap it back before selling the car.

I've never seen the point in intentionally blowing something up, when you're going to replace it. Pull the good unit out first and store/sell it.

I owned a S2000 quaife back when i had my car time attack car.. I know them very well (and service them). For the price of that kit and trans, Id rather spend a few more $$ and have the sequential. My .02.

SmsAlSuwaidi · 12-14-2013, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slicktop

@FullBlown - is there no required firewall modifying? V160 is a big bitch

I know that the tunnel needed " massaging to fit a 2j w/ a v160 so maybe this case is simmilar.

RRnold · 12-14-2013, 01:37 AM

That's bad ass!!

Not to add insult to injury but there is a guy on SF who just rolled his Soup and selling the entire car (has about 156K) for 10K; engine, tranny, diff, axle etc. I told him he's smoking crack if he want's 10K b/c who knows what the condition of the internals are in.

He's ok but the car is done. The guy is up in Sac and if anybody is interested, I can PM you his number.

Hanni_0176 · 12-14-2013, 02:06 AM

How much more does the V160 weigh compared to our stock trans?

Poodles · 12-14-2013, 02:57 AM

Hmmm.. so theoretically you could bolt up an R154 with a 1JZ bellhousing as well...

For those that don't know, the R154 is the MKIII Supra Turbo 5-speed. Yeah, you'd lose a gear, but 5th is actually a better highway gear than the 6th in the V160 because of the ratios. Plus the tranny is FAR cheaper than a V160.

SmsAlSuwaidi · 12-14-2013, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poodles

Hmmm.. so theoretically you could bolt up an R154 with a 1JZ bellhousing as well...

For those that don't know, the R154 is the MKIII Supra Turbo 5-speed. Yeah, you'd lose a gear, but 5th is actually a better highway gear than the 6th in the V160 because of the ratios. Plus the tranny is FAR cheaper than a V160.

This ! I used both , the v160 is far superior but price is an issue. Plus the gears are SO long on a r154

Sent from my IBrick

FullBlown · 12-14-2013, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

So does this mean I won't destroy 4th gear anymore......? Curious how the starter and clutch will work

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The bell housing will have to be modified to fit the starter, clutch will be a twin disc

Quote:

Originally Posted by slicktop

@FullBlown - is there no required firewall modifying? V160 is a big bitch

we shouldn't have to mod the tunnel.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanni_0176

How much more does the V160 weigh compared to our stock trans?

Not sure what the stock one weighs, the v160 weighs roughly 115lbs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poodles

Hmmm.. so theoretically you could bolt up an R154 with a 1JZ bellhousing as well...

For those that don't know, the R154 is the MKIII Supra Turbo 5-speed. Yeah, you'd lose a gear, but 5th is actually a better highway gear than the 6th in the V160 because of the ratios. Plus the tranny is FAR cheaper than a V160.

Yes, you could run the R154

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi

This ! I used both , the v160 is far superior but price is an issue. Plus the gears are SO long on a r154

Sent from my IBrick

If you look hard enough, you can find them for around $3500. Not cheap but a gearset for this trans will end up costing just as much if not more.

SilverSkyline210 · 12-15-2013, 02:04 AM

from what i remember in BRZ class, our manual trans weighs about 95 lbs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanni_0176

How much more does the V160 weigh compared to our stock trans?

cf6mech · 12-15-2013, 03:45 AM

Our Aisin in the FRS/BRZ cost $4.800.00 to $5,000.00 last time I checked and rated to only 210ftlbs of torque,....if your FI this is something you will definitely have to consider. Kudos to Full Blown and Don at Accelerated Performance for addressing this weak link.

12-13-2013, 11:01 PM	#18
slicktop Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Raven FRS 2JZ-GTE/V160 swapped Location: Hampton, VA Posts: 960 Thanks: 376 Thanked 623 Times in 315 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	@FullBlown - is there no required firewall modifying? V160 is a big bitch __________________ -slicktop 2013 Scion FRS 2JZ-GTE/V160 Swap Build Thread

12-14-2013, 01:37 AM	#22
RRnold 2 wheel member Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: JZA80, 997.1, Taco Location: SoCal->NorCal Posts: 4,330 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 938 Times in 480 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That's bad ass!! Not to add insult to injury but there is a guy on SF who just rolled his Soup and selling the entire car (has about 156K) for 10K; engine, tranny, diff, axle etc. I told him he's smoking crack if he want's 10K b/c who knows what the condition of the internals are in. He's ok but the car is done. The guy is up in Sac and if anybody is interested, I can PM you his number. __________________

12-14-2013, 02:06 AM	#23
Hanni_0176 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S 10 Series MT Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 339 Thanks: 115 Thanked 231 Times in 106 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	How much more does the V160 weigh compared to our stock trans? __________________ Mods: K&N Air Filter - Open Flash Tablet (Stage 1 v1.55) - more to come!

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Frs300 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Pile of junk Location: florida Posts: 1,190 Thanks: 264 Thanked 968 Times in 413 Posts Mentioned: 232 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	v161 First gear: 3.724:1 Second gear: 2.246:1 Third gear: 1.541:1 Fourth gear: 1.205:1 Fifth gear: 1:1 Sixth gear: 0.818:1

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taylork057 Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2013 Location: USA Posts: 49 Thanks: 6 Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Why not just buy a quaife at this point. Only a few more dollars and a sequential trans. And why not base it off a much cheaper and easier trans to locate.. T56?

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diss7 Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: AE86, 2x GT86, TE27 Location: Christchurch NZ Posts: 1,478 Thanks: 826 Thanked 1,181 Times in 522 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You've obviously never driven a sequential. They're brutal. Also, a quaife is no where near as strong or as streetable as a v16x. A v16x conversion kit is a welcome product in my eyes. The box we're running isn't exactly going to be cheap to replace. I would wager you could find a v16x cheaper. Question is do you do it before or after blowing a box. If you do it before, you can always swap it back before selling the car. I've never seen the point in intentionally blowing something up, when you're going to replace it. Pull the good unit out first and store/sell it.

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KAR Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Whiteout 6spd Location: NJ Posts: 490 Thanks: 21 Thanked 163 Times in 100 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Oh nice, now if I dont find a use for my spare sup trans, it will go on the FRS

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Poodles Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2015 Series.Blue Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 1,781 Thanks: 88 Thanked 781 Times in 481 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hmmm.. so theoretically you could bolt up an R154 with a 1JZ bellhousing as well... For those that don't know, the R154 is the MKIII Supra Turbo 5-speed. Yeah, you'd lose a gear, but 5th is actually a better highway gear than the 6th in the V160 because of the ratios. Plus the tranny is FAR cheaper than a V160.

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