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Ondreiko · 12-06-2013, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jeebus

Running a bit on the rich side...what is the octane of the fuel in Moscow? Also, how friggen cold is it?

The fuel in here is 98 octane locally measured, it suppese to be equal to 93 AKI
fuel that you have in US. The temperature outside is around 0 degrees C.
My intake is stock, but snorkel is cut and Perrin foam air filter dropped in.

Ondreiko · 12-06-2013, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rombinhood@OpenFlash

Most likely a difference in fuel formulation. Stock intake/MAF housing?

As written above, inlet tube and airbox are stock, while the snorkel is cut and foam filter dropped in.
What am i suppose to do to make the mixture leaner a bit?

the.big.kahoona · 12-06-2013, 03:48 AM

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Burn · 12-07-2013, 02:13 AM

Managed to do first 3 pulls ..http://datazap.me/u/burn/first-3-gea...-2-7-8-9-10-12 My AFR was about 11.37 on 3rd gear pull which makes me wonder if this is a bit too rich..

nlowell · 12-07-2013, 04:23 AM

Ondreiko - I'm running the same map and getting the same results (11.25 AFR) on 91 pump in California. I'm going to switch to E85 and the associated map this weekend and see where that puts me.

Kodename47 · 12-07-2013, 04:56 AM

Surely step 1 is to scale the MAF?

Ondreiko · 12-07-2013, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by nlowell

Ondreiko - I'm running the same map and getting the same results (11.25 AFR) on 91 pump in California. I'm going to switch to E85 and the associated map this weekend and see where that puts me.

Hi!
Let us know how your AFR changed on E85.
I can't test the same due to E85 absence in my area.
What does your Adv. Multiplier show on WOT pull?

nlowell · 12-07-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ondreiko

What does your Adv. Multiplier show on WOT pull?

My Adv. Multiplier is a solid 1 on all of my logs

Ondreiko · 12-07-2013, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nlowell

My Adv. Multiplier is a solid 1 on all of my logs

Great! Then i may suggest that rich mix was not caused by knock what means we should have it made leaner somehow.
My Adv multiplier logging feature is not available yet so i may just suggest that i have the same picture as you.

akyp · 12-07-2013, 10:05 PM

@Rombinhood@OpenFlash @shiv@vishnu My car seems to be running rich as well: http://www.datazap.me/u/akyp/oft-sta...ll?1-8-9-10-11

G series ROM (ZA1J700G) and 98 RON fuel. Everything stock.

nlowell · 12-07-2013, 11:57 PM

Filled up with 10 gallons of E85 - flashed stage 2 e85 tune - drove 5 miles - ate dinner - drove another 5 miles - logged this pull in 3rd gear.

Adv. Multiplier was 1.0 the whole time - I'm pretty happy with the results but it does appear to be running a little rich with the AFR still coming down into the 11's (11.6 at 7k)

Ondreiko · 12-08-2013, 02:37 AM

Can someone advise what should we do to make the mixture leaner?
Should we wait untill Shiv updates the tables or can we try to fix it ourselves (don't actually figure the way how)?
Seems it's not only G-series ROMs feature since @nlowell is from US and is also running rich.
I have no idea what to start with - would someone suggest possible actions from an experts side?
Here is my WOT pull:
http://datazap.me/u/ondreiko/3-4-5-g...ll-wot?1-7-8-9

Tromatic · 12-08-2013, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ondreiko

Can someone advise what should we do to make the mixture leaner?

I'm no expert, but from what I have been reading running a bit rich with the tunes provided is a built-in protection for the engine. Running lean can cause detonation and other more unpleasant problems.

Ondreiko · 12-08-2013, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tromatic

I'm no expert, but from what I have been reading running a bit rich with the tunes provided is a built-in protection for the engine. Running lean can cause detonation and other more unpleasant problems.

Yes, but not as rich as 11.25? I was thinking it should be within 12-12.5 AFR rate. Seems that just a few people have WOT AFR below 11.5.
Most of these people sofar running G-series ROMs.
What are other peoples readings for AFR rate on WOT?

12-07-2013, 02:13 AM	#32
Burn Slack Bum Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FT86 Location: Australia,Melbourne Posts: 158 Thanks: 44 Thanked 32 Times in 27 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Managed to do first 3 pulls ..http://datazap.me/u/burn/first-3-gea...-2-7-8-9-10-12 My AFR was about 11.37 on 3rd gear pull which makes me wonder if this is a bit too rich.. Attached Images Last edited by Burn; 12-07-2013 at 09:11 AM.

12-07-2013, 04:23 AM	#33
nlowell Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 443 Thanks: 105 Thanked 409 Times in 173 Posts Mentioned: 51 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ondreiko - I'm running the same map and getting the same results (11.25 AFR) on 91 pump in California. I'm going to switch to E85 and the associated map this weekend and see where that puts me. __________________ Complete Part Out: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125688

12-07-2013, 04:56 AM	#34
Kodename47 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: UK GT86 Location: UK Posts: 3,040 Thanks: 185 Thanked 1,633 Times in 1,113 Posts Mentioned: 156 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Surely step 1 is to scale the MAF? __________________ .: Stealth 86 :. Abbey Motorsport/K47 Tuned Sprintex 210 Supercharger Kodename 47 DJ: Soundcloud / Instagram / Facebook

12-07-2013, 11:57 PM	#39
nlowell Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 443 Thanks: 105 Thanked 409 Times in 173 Posts Mentioned: 51 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Filled up with 10 gallons of E85 - flashed stage 2 e85 tune - drove 5 miles - ate dinner - drove another 5 miles - logged this pull in 3rd gear. Adv. Multiplier was 1.0 the whole time - I'm pretty happy with the results but it does appear to be running a little rich with the AFR still coming down into the 11's (11.6 at 7k) Last edited by nlowell; 12-08-2013 at 12:34 AM.

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Ondreiko RWD addicted Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: BRZ 6MT OFT OFH Location: Moscow Posts: 130 Thanks: 8 Thanked 19 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Can someone advise what should we do to make the mixture leaner? Should we wait untill Shiv updates the tables or can we try to fix it ourselves (don't actually figure the way how)? Seems it's not only G-series ROMs feature since @nlowell is from US and is also running rich. I have no idea what to start with - would someone suggest possible actions from an experts side? Here is my WOT pull: http://datazap.me/u/ondreiko/3-4-5-g...ll-wot?1-7-8-9

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