will the new wrx engine fit the frs?

[regal]

Originally Posted by Ashybone

I like our DI system honestly. I don't see it as a gimmick but something that is actually useful to the engine.

I just don't like that 2012 buyers can't get the latest ecu calib that supposedly fixes the di seal issue, we got left out in the cold.

[nonicname returns]

Originally Posted by SkAsphalt

Sorry, just want to clarify, I meant a turbo'd Twin (FRS/BRZ)

The WRX has a premium over the BRZ in price, at least in Canadathe BRZ is $27k and the WRX is $32.5k. That 5,500 goes a long way. Also, the FRS is even cheaper, so a turbo in that price range isn't really an option, unless we look at offerings from like Ford or Hyundai but they sell in much greater volume and use the engine in high volume cars elsewhere.

Dude stop tye fanboi crap. Both the brz and wrx cost EXACTLY the same. My friend got his 2013 wrx for $27k otd. The wrx has AWD actual usable power and it most definetely not outran by mini vans.

[regal]

Originally Posted by nonicname returns

Dude stop tye fanboi crap. Both the brz and wrx cost EXACTLY the same. My friend got his 2013 wrx for $27k otd. The wrx has AWD actual usable power and it most definetely not outran by mini vans.

There is much more real value added features/components on a WRX, if they can sell it for $27k they can sell a trubo BRZ for $27k. The accountants are just paying the capital &dev depreciation with the mark-up. Plus Tada wanted an NA.

[kbye]

Originally Posted by nonicname returns

Dude stop tye fanboi crap. Both the brz and wrx cost EXACTLY the same. My friend got his 2013 wrx for $27k otd. The wrx has AWD actual usable power and it most definetely not outran by mini vans.

He said in CANADA which is absolutely true: the base wrx is more expensive. Look it up on the Canadian scion and subaru websites.

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by chulooz

The other important difference is your friend still has a valid warranty.

Ya that's not always a good case though. My eagle Talon years ago went through two turbos and every excuse in the book was used neither was fully covered maybe 20-25% they covered. Warranty is not as magical as thought always ..

[SkAsphalt]

Originally Posted by nonicname returns

Dude stop tye fanboi crap. Both the brz and wrx cost EXACTLY the same. My friend got his 2013 wrx for $27k otd. The wrx has AWD actual usable power and it most definetely not outran by mini vans.

Check the f×××ing website. MRSP in Canadian dollars before taxes, fees or levies is what I quoted above. It's a fact.

[Ashybone]

Originally Posted by nonicname returns

...The wrx has AWD actual usable power and it most definetely not outran by mini vans.

I'm just going to go ahead and say it... Mini vans now at days are fuckin fast. Ever get a ride in a '13 Toyota Sienna? I did when I took my FR-S in for service and had to get a ride home... Shit changed ma life

[thill]

Originally Posted by Ashybone

I'm just going to go ahead and say it... Mini vans now at days are fuckin fast. Ever get a ride in a '13 Toyota Sienna? I did when I took my FR-S in for service and had to get a ride home... Shit changed ma life

Minvans also weigh a ton. A Sienna is close to 4500lbs. My 2013 Honda Odyssey is close to 4400lbs.

I can assure you my Odyssey is not faster than my BRZ. Yes, they have decent pickup for their weight, but consider the power to weight ratio. That Sienna almost weighs double but only has 66 more hp.

What the minivans do have is more torque. But owning both, I can tell you that if you get beat by a minivan it is only because you are not pushing your car hard enough. Especially when you consider most minivans typically have more people in them, and more stuff which adds to the weight issue. And if you thrown any type of turn into the mix forget about it.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Will a car no one's seen with an engine no one's seen (that's based off of our engine) fit in our car?













Really? Are you asking that question?

[s0sl0w]

Originally Posted by nonicname returns

Dude stop tye fanboi crap. Both the brz and wrx cost EXACTLY the same. My friend got his 2013 wrx for $27k otd. The wrx has AWD actual usable power and it most definetely not outran by mini vans.

You're an idiot.

The WRX is based off the impreza, platform sharing lowers cost. The impreza is a "cheap" car. Large production numbers lower cost. Minimal development dollars being spent to design a car lower final cost. The impreza chassis that the WRX is based off of, STILL traces back to the original impreza chassis from 1993, which was itself based off the even older Legacy chassis.

Meanwhile the 86 is a largely unique chassis, developed extensively over years, with a unique motor and it's brand new.

C/n: If the WRX is so much better in your mind then go buy one and stop posting here please.

[chulooz]

Originally Posted by s0sl0w

Meanwhile the 86 is a largely unique chassis, developed extensively over years, with a unique motor and it's brand new.

Did you know the 86 chassis is moderately based off a legacy platform and shares parts with the impreza, and its FA was designed off subaru's FB? Because it does.
Though your main point is spot on, the WRX is subaru's profit maker because of its bloodline.

[s0sl0w]

Originally Posted by chulooz

Did you know the 86 chassis is moderately based off a legacy platform and shares parts with the impreza, and its FA was designed off subaru's FB? Because it does.
Though your main point is spot on, the WRX is subaru's profit maker because of its bloodline.

Yes I did. but while they borrowed as much as they can it's still unique and had to redesigned (the chassis). Same goes for the FA, as based off the FB as it is it was still gone thru and re-engineered. That cost money.

The 86 is "hacked together" from subaru bits, borrowed from the catalog where possible, absolutely, but after they figured out what could be borrowed they had to sit down and re-engineer everything to work properly, be a balanced and low as possible and as light as possible. That's not cheap. If the car was an assortment of bits without any hard engineering it wouldn't have taken nearly as long to get to market.

[chulooz]

Paying for re-engineering is still much cheaper than full on engineering; thats one reason why it could be offered ~$25k. Im sure all the competition is going to be frankenstien'd too so they can keep competitive pricing available.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by chulooz

Paying for re-engineering is still much cheaper than full on engineering; thats one reason why it could be offered ~$25k. Im sure all the competition is going to be frankenstien'd too so they can keep competitive pricing available.

No, every VW//Porsche/Audi (and all the companies they own...) car on the MQB platform will be unique and special.