Drift Armor Drift Bar

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by cruzinbill

Or maybe not hit people? If some jackass wants to run out in the middle of the road and I hit him. Im gonna get out and beat the shit out of him. There are crosswalks for a reason.

If you are going over 35, it doesnt matter what kind of bar you have. If under 35, either you werent paying attention or he wanted to get hit.

Also, I guess people shouldnt be lowering or raisng their vehicles either since that changes the impact point.... guess more lawyers to find blame. Dont get me started on motorcycles that dont even have bumpers.....

I will def be getting one.

And depending on the state you'd STILL be at fault, before the investigation even started. There are plenty of states where hitting a pedestrian, even when not in a marked crosswalk, is the driver's fault by law.

[Hanakuso]

Originally Posted by Batman

I say "might" be better, because every owner has different priorities and preferences, and I respect that. I personally want to use the drift bar for daily driving, but I won't be replacing anything else frame wise (crumple wise). If another owner wants nothing to do with the drift bar, hey! I respect that, and leave it at that. I'm in no way out to convince the world its a must have.

So please.. let me have my drift armor?

It's your car so do what you want. I honestly don't care, just like how I don't care when I see underglow neon on cars.

[TouchMyHonda]

So instead of the stock one crumpling up and taking the blow.... Lets attach something that wont budge and will fuck the frame up..... making matters far far worse.

[was385]

Originally Posted by cruzinbill

My point is, people are always gonna bitch and complain about everything...always debate things being wrong or right. Just take responsibility for what you do instead of trying to blame it on a car part.

Also if you hit a pedestrian your going to jail anyway. Thats a fact.

The fact that people should take responsibility and not blame someone else has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion in this country. We are a litigious society, bottom line. And I can assure you that even if the pedestrian is at fault for the collision and you're not in legal trouble (I assure you it is possible), the lawyer will claim that negligence of the owner caused more damage and hit you with a huge lawsuit. And probably win.

[SubieNate]

Originally Posted by cruzinbill

My point is, people are always gonna bitch and complain about everything...always debate things being wrong or right. Just take responsibility for what you do instead of trying to blame it on a car part.

Also if you hit a pedestrian your going to jail anyway. Thats a fact.

Going go jail for a short period of time while fault is sorted out on a non hit and run car vs pedestrian accident and having hope that it will be deemed that the pedestrian was negligent is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to jail for a long time for curb stomping an injured person because you have impulse control problems.

Nathan

[was385]

Originally Posted by Batman

also... I'm man enough to admit I'm wrong, in my defense I wasn't around in the seventies haha

But this made me laugh

You're not understanding my point here. It's not that you're wrong, it's that you being wrong shows a lack of knowledge on the subject, which should throw up a red flag for you that messing with the structural engineering of a car when it COULD harm yourself, pedestrians, or other drivers may not be the best idea. Just the liability alone should be enough to scare anyone off. Not even just hitting a pedestrian, but if you ram into a car with this bar, the other lawyer will see offroad use only and start screaming negligence at the top of their lungs.

[cruzinbill]

How are all these lawyers even knowing that you have it on there?
While Ive never been in any wrecks, I work with someone that got tboned back in Nov, there was def no hardcore rip a car apart investigation to see if they were oem parts or not.

[SubieNate]

Originally Posted by cruzinbill

How are all these lawyers even knowing that you have it on there?
While Ive never been in any wrecks, I work with someone that got tboned back in Nov, there was def no hardcore rip a car apart investigation to see if they were oem parts or not.

If the vehicle inspections done by the insurance adjusters reveal abnormal damage (Such as a non-stock bumper beam punching right through the front bumper) they'll look into things a bit more. You can trust that they have a legal department just waiting to pass the buck if they can.

Nathan

[was385]

Originally Posted by cruzinbill

How are all these lawyers even knowing that you have it on there?
While Ive never been in any wrecks, I work with someone that got tboned back in Nov, there was def no hardcore rip a car apart investigation to see if they were oem parts or not.

You underestimate how much a personal injury lawyer wants to get paid and how much an insurance company wants the other driver's company to pay. And if this thing does half of what it's supposed to, I assure you it'll be easy to tell that isn't a stock front end.

[cruzinbill]

Originally Posted by was385

You underestimate how much a personal injury lawyer wants to get paid and how much an insurance company wants the other driver's company to pay. And if this thing does half of what it's supposed to, I assure you it'll be easy to tell that isn't a stock front end.

if you hit someone else prolly so, but odds are your gonna be at fault if you hit someone with your front end.
Either way its just opinions till it happens, and for me the benefits outweighs the risks. So Ill def be getting it here soon.

[Batman]

Originally Posted by cruzinbill

if you hit someone else prolly so, but odds are your gonna be at fault if you hit someone with your front end.
Either way its just opinions till it happens, and for me the benefits outweighs the risks. So Ill def be getting it here soon.

I have to agree with you, being morally right or wrong, I don't plan on hitting anything or anyone. And if that happens, knock on wood it doesn't, I'll accept the responsibility. And as of that, I'm done with the arguing on the internet

[Cessblood]

I think Greddy is using this bar on their FRS.

[utekineir]

Been a few months has anyone done a pedestrian impact comparison yet?

[mrk1]

nice looking part, certainly for off road use only. This certainly is not a new concept i don't know why people are jumping all over it. I run something similar on my car, mine does look to be a bit more substantial. Mine is made of the same DOM material I make roll cages from.