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View Poll Results: Buying this car to drift?
I'd buy the FT-86 in large part due to its drifting ability 4 10.53%
The FT-86's drifting ability specifically, is neither a pro or a con to me 12 31.58%
The FT-86's drifting ability is not a significant reason why I'd buy this car 22 57.89%
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:43 PM   #1
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Will you drift this car often?

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Old 11-08-2009, 04:28 AM   #2
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Heavier front means that steering feel would be better and handling can be more adjustable for the average driver.

Drift in a track and you would be addicted. First time I did I almost ran out of fuel before I pit

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Old 11-08-2009, 04:41 AM   #3
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Ive never actually drifted a car for real I would buy this car for its awesome handling ability I would not be drifting it.
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Old 11-08-2009, 04:58 AM   #4
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I'll be glad if they keep this car as a true spirital successor to the AE86 once its released.


And yes, I will be sliding this car on occassion. The fact that they're purposefully making the car front-heavy because of drifting really doesn't effect my decision at all.

I selected A, even though the 'drifting' part really doesn't effect my decision, its the wording of the question that does: "drifting ability", which would indicate that this car is going to be RWD. Because of that, A was chosen.
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Old 11-08-2009, 05:05 AM   #5
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I'd bet the percentage of owners who will occasionally race this car on a track you could count on half of one hand. that in order to get all the rest of the goodness these cars will offer?
I agree with this scenario.

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So the "fun" in driving this car (for most) will be done on public roads (somewhat) within the relative confines of the law. In that scenario, I'm wondering if a car (that otherwise sounds great on paper) is best suited to have most of its weight over the non-driving axle, as Toyota is purposefully doing in order to make this a better drifter and "slide the tail".that in order to get all the rest of the goodness these cars will offer?
A good question. And one that Toyota USA may likely pay for since you know that their will be plenty of people that buy this car, try to drift it around a corner, and wrap it around a tree. Then they'll try to sue (and probably win).

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I haven't done that previously, and it sounds fun... but it also sounds like it would be expensive on tires, and somewhat scarry on two lane roads with other vehicles and trees.that in order to get all the rest of the goodness these cars will offer?
It can be fun, if you know what you're doing. It can be very, very scary if you don't, or it's unexpected. I had a horrific spin with my old Z in the wee hours of the cold, April morning before dawn back outside of Ottawa. It wasn't intentional, and honestly, if it weren't for the TCS I may have completely demolished the car and myself, but I came out unscathed. And humbled.

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Are most of you glad that the weight will be heavier on the front (making for a better drifting car), or will kinda put up with that in order to get all the rest of the goodness these cars will offer?
Having said all the above, I want this car to be neutral handling, if not tail happy. I want a car, a lightweight one at that, to better learn the handling dynamics of RWD. One that I can do with a proper driver's course.
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Old 11-08-2009, 05:52 AM   #6
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not for drifting, but there are killer canyons in malibu that i wouldn't mind taking this car through, its a blast with my mr2.
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Having said all the above, I want this car to be neutral handling, if not tail happy. I want a car, a lightweight one at that, to better learn the handling dynamics of RWD. One that I can do with a proper driver's course.
I'm actually interested in how well of a "learners" car this will be, in comparison to the AE86.

Probably not very much so, it would have to include:
1) Underpoweredness, almost to a fault
2) Unforgiving solid rear-axle
3) Spaghetti noodle of a chassis.

I already know #2 isn't there....pretty sure 1 and 3 won't be either.
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I won't be drifting at all! Mine will probably end up being built for a straight line. There's alot of time left to change my mind and 100% decide on something so it's all up in the air right now.
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not for drifting, but there are killer canyons in malibu that i wouldn't mind taking this car through, its a blast with my mr2.
Same. Just want a lightweight carver of a sports car. Where I live there's no mountain roads or long stretches of road where I can use 400hp anyway. Just want something nimble with decent power-to-weight where I can break the end loose once in a while on a turn and can serve duty as a auto-x'er.

I don't even think there's a single place I can drift on long island. Where do people usually go to drift -- on a drift track? in canyon roads?
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Great topic. I voted option 2. Looks like most people voted 2 or 3 (that drift ability doesn't really matter). I think I'm probably speaking for most members that the concept and image of a car being able to drift is cool, in reality we don't tend to do that or want to do that with our cars. But it's nice knowing that the car handles so well and is fully capable of it if we're interested.

Me personally, I'm looking for some nice straightline performance with some generally good handling. It's going to be a light car so it shouldn't be hard to get it going fast in a the straights. So hopefully TRD gives us a forced induction option or if not I'll look to the aftermarket.
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Great topic. I voted option 2. Looks like most people voted 2 or 3 (that drift ability doesn't really matter). I think I'm probably speaking for most members that the concept and image of a car being able to drift is cool, in reality we don't tend to do that or want to do that with our cars. But it's nice knowing that the car handles so well and is fully capable of it if we're interested.

Me personally, I'm looking for some nice straightline performance with some generally good handling. It's going to be a light car so it shouldn't be hard to get it going fast in a the straights. So hopefully TRD gives us a forced induction option or if not I'll look to the aftermarket.
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I won't be drifting at all! Mine will probably end up being built for a straight line. There's alot of time left to change my mind and 100% decide on something so it's all up in the air right now.
Straight-line tuning on this car is a waste of car. If -thats- what you want to do with the 86 then you might as well get that Genesis you were looking at.
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Straight-line tuning on this car is a waste of car. If -thats- what you want to do with the 86 then you might as well get that Genesis you were looking at.
Some might say that about my S2000 too but it's going to be turbo'ed as well. Just because I'm not going to be slinging it around a track or drifting it doesn't make it a waste of a car. I guess you'd say Inline Pro's 933whp drag s2000 is a waste of a car too.
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Old 11-08-2009, 04:00 PM   #14
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I'll drift it every now and then, I need to know the limits of this car just like my AE86 this will be street class time attack. but just like my AE86 i want that rearend a little bit sliding when going thru turns.
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