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Old 11-22-2013, 02:00 AM   #57
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wait! my 2013 FR-S idles at 700 RPM all time. how come 800 is a dip?
yeah I noticed that after I said it, it dips well below that is what I meant. Mine hasn't done it since posting this though, go figure.
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Old 11-22-2013, 02:22 AM   #58
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hey there!!! ive had the same issues in my 2013 the way the rpm dip was fixed in mine was by buying a drop in filter, got the k&n drop in filter and car runs smoother and no more rpm dip. hope this helps!!
Can't the drop in filters cause dirt to get into the engine...??? I've read about this online. Not sure if this is true or not.
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Old 11-22-2013, 02:44 AM   #59
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Can't the drop in filters cause dirt to get into the engine...??? I've read about this online. Not sure if this is true or not.
The drop in filters actually filter much better than the OEM filter and provide greater airflow.

The Perrin filter for instance is great at filtering out nearly all contaminants whilst providing increased airflow and a nicer sound.
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Old 11-22-2013, 04:09 AM   #60
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In my years of owning cars, at least down here, I feel that nearly all of the dealerships know NOTHING about what they are doing. I think it's a Florida thing.
It's simple, actually:

- fuel "chirp": don't bother with fixing it. It's not a mechanical problem and won't affect your car in any way, and the fix isn't a fix.
- the rest of the issues: have them run a VIN and apply any TSBs that are outstanding

As for individual problems, it's simple: just tell them you have these issues, that you are aware of current fixes. If the dealer doesn't want to service them, tell them you will take your labor work somewhere else. That's all that needs to be said. None of this "worst dealer ever" stuff.

We're not driving Ferraris, we're not limited to one dealer in an area.

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Old 11-22-2013, 05:44 PM   #61
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F'n Ethanol

Sucks that you guys in So. Cal. can't get proper fuel for your cars.
Damn Ethanol, They tried to mandate it in one state here in Australia but only on regular unleaded so you can still get the High Octane 98 that hasn't been jumped on by some politician or farmers co-op.

Some say Ethanol is OK to use in modern vehicles. Usually they are people who don't care about YOUR car.
I prefer to run on Fuel the car was designed to run on.

Sorry , back to discussion.
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Old 11-22-2013, 08:20 PM   #62
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Some say Ethanol is OK to use in modern vehicles. Usually they are people who don't care about YOUR car.
I prefer to run on Fuel the car was designed to run on.

Sorry , back to discussion.
http://www.fuel-testers.com/ethanol_fuel_history.html

Ethanol has been in American fuel for nearly 10 years now and auto manufacturers were made aware of the switch, it didn't happen overnight. This car was designed to use fuel containing up to 10% ethanol, and I'd be surprised if it was any different between regions aside from ECU tuning.
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Old 11-22-2013, 09:07 PM   #63
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Don't really know how they've spun it to you guys in the States.

We've had this gear in our fuel for probably longer than 10 years as well.

Coming from an Engineering background, the way I understand it is Ethanol is an Alternative fuel. Petrol engines are generally designed to run on petrol and then modified and tuned to allow this Alternative fuel to be used. (eg. "E10 can be used in this vehicle.)
Some engines are designed to run on Ethanol and wear a badge that might say "E85". (up to 85 % Ethanol)* Not our cars*
There's no mechanical reason to introduce Ethanol to Petrol as you get less Economy when using an Ethanol blend compared to straight Petrol so it is not as efficient.
It's not for environmental reasons because if you use more fuel due to inefficiency how is that helping the Planet.
I think the reason we have ethanol is purely financial. Helps prop up the farming sector by making unwanted crops into alternative fuel. Too bad they can't turn those unwanted crops into real food and feed some people but you'll never make Billions doing that will ya.
Petrol in a Petrol Engine..Seems pretty straight forward to me, but I'm old and simple. Will probably be better when all us old buggers drop off and you kids can run your cars on mung bean juice or Possum tears or whatever.
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Old 11-22-2013, 10:22 PM   #64
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Go- it helps pollution and that's why most major cities don't have no ethanol gas. The engine hate ethanol. That is why the car runs better on non ethanol than ethanol. And yes the crickets have to do with ethanol in the as.
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Old 11-22-2013, 10:36 PM   #65
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I have all the 'issues' OP posted.

I don't consider them 'issues'.

The chirp is just a noise, same with the decklid pop (there's usually so much other noise going on that I'm not even sure I have it, the car is noisy), the idle dip is apparently normal for modern Toyotas (as long as it doesn't stall) and the tailight condensation is also normal for Toyotas.
Which Toyotas are you referring to?
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............ I'm old and simple. Will probably be better when all us old buggers drop off and you kids can run your cars on mung bean juice or Possum tears or whatever.
Cheers.
..............yep, maybe then they will go back to the old multi-fuel engines used in 5 ton trucks in the Army back in the 60's..... hell, they would run on anything that was liquid and would burn ....

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The drop in filters actually filter much better than the OEM filter and provide greater airflow.

The Perrin filter for instance is great at filtering out nearly all contaminants whilst providing increased airflow and a nicer sound.
That's what marketing would like you to believe.. It's BS.
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That's what marketing would like you to believe.. It's BS.
That's what I figured...
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Old 11-23-2013, 11:46 AM   #69
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There is this additive that can be used along with your gas to rid it of the Ethanol; I use it in my Aircooled HP VW engines in the Fall and winter.
Star brite Star Tron Enzyme Fuel Treatment Gas Additive

Hope it helps you also
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Old 11-23-2013, 12:04 PM   #70
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Untrue.

Mine dips to ~600RPMs all the time with absolutely no fan/AC/heat on whatsoever

I have recorded it in every possible setting and it has no affect. If you read up on the forums a lot of people have the issue regardless of AC setting
yep, the car is supposed to idle at 600 rpm

the only time my car idles above 600 is when it's still warming up or if the fans are on and it jumps to about 1k rmp for a few seconds and falls back to 600 intermittently; which most likely to avoid stalling out from the excess power consumed to blow the air
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