Crawford or 2jz it up

[Yamajee]

Originally Posted by chrisl

That is indeed the LS I was referring to, but to be honest, I kind of think both the LS and the 2JZ go against the spirit of the car. Yes, the LS is much larger displacement than the 2JZ, but the actual dimensions aren't much larger, and the weight is actually quite a bit less (from what I can find, a 2JZ-GTE longblock is 525lb or so, while an LS1 is more like 430). Keep in mind that the LS is really compact for its displacement, since it's a pushrod V8, and it has an aluminum block too, which helps with the weight (unless you go to the LSX), while the 2JZ is an iron block I6, which means its dimensions are large for its displacement.

Honestly, I'm not sure what would be a good engine for this car if I were building one with an engine swap - most of the engines capable of making a lot more power than stock are either a lot heavier than stock or crazy expensive (or both). A 9A1 swap would be pretty cool to see, but it really wouldn't make any financial sense at all (and the same goes for something like a Tipo F131 V8, but to an even greater degree). A Renesis could be awesome too, but it really doesn't make nearly enough power to be worth the effort off doing the swap. The problem is, there really aren't very many small, light, high-performance engines available without spending a lot of money.

Let's look at it this way, watch the video above my post, do you think that the sound of a v8 would ever blend in with a car like the FRS? I sure don't. Yes, the dimensions are better, yes the block is much lighter, yes the engine is capable of producing amazing horsepower at a lower cost but let's face it, a 2jz with an FRS blends perfectly in for me at least. Plus, everyone has his side when it comes to engines (I mean sides as in japanese, german, american, italian, etc.) I'm on the japanese side therefore I support the 2jz in every way and I had a lot of projects that ran jz engines in them (Cefiros, skylines, threw away the rb20's, a geotracker!!, and soo on.)

[Yamajee]

Originally Posted by Frs300

the transmission alone is about $6k. Ive been looking into getting one

Maybe it's cheaper here in Dubai, a whole 2jz engine (including power steering and compressor) + 6 speed tranny would cost around $4000. Thousands of them in salvage yards.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by koyv90

the main thing that crawford did well was the torque increase over other turbo kits. Wondering how they got it so high.

They use a baby turbo and lots of PSI. It gives a high torque spike.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Frs300

the transmission alone is about $6k. Ive been looking into getting one

Say it ain't so.

[Dipstik-sportech]

Originally Posted by Yamajee

Maybe it's cheaper here in Dubai, a whole 2jz engine (including power steering and compressor) + 6 speed tranny would cost around $4000. Thousands of them in salvage yards.

Start sending trannies this way then. You could make a fortune.

[slicktop]

Originally Posted by Frs300

the transmission alone is about $6k. Ive been looking into getting one

V160 brand new from Titan is $6400+shipping. About $3k used.

Worth it, imo.

[Yamajee]

Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

Start sending trannies this way then. You could make a fortune.

I recall having a pic of a salvage yard with over 300 JZ engines lying around with their trannies mounted to them too. I'll try to find that and the 5 speed R154 transmission costs around 1000 bucks without a clutch, just checked for a used one.

[SirBrass]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

That is what I thought at first, but then he said he wanted a GT-R, and waiting for it. Wait = probably saving up money for it. That made me think he is still aware of Cost* Issues.

On second thought, if the cost was no Issues, there would not be any need to talk in the Forum to ask for advises, and so. I have seen people who has no Cost Issues just do it before asking, and most of the time those are Automotive Shop owners. Millionaires from Lottery or Works are all going for the big Shots (Lambo, Ferrari, Maserati, Porsche, Corvette, Viper...Etc)

Based on this, I think we are all being Trolled

From what he's said, I get the impression that while he's not filthy rich, he's reasonably well-loaded and probably got to be so by being financially smart, but not miserly. Sounds like he could afford to just dump the money but would prefer not to. That's usually how the reasonably wealthy STAY wealthy.

[SilverSkyline210]

Originally Posted by JK21

Hi guys. I have done a few posts on here and I am looking for feedback.

I am on the verge of doing a 2jz swap on my FRS but I just recently encountered an opportunity to where I can do a full build like the Crawford Performance BRZ. All my parts would be purchased and I am looking to the forum for some opinions. One of the biggest pros is that the weight of my car wont be affected as opposed to an iron block getting placed in the bay. I am calling Crawford tomorrow to get more details and looking at the specs I feel this would be better for overall performance (street and track mostly). Thoughts and opinions greatly appreciated.

One thing I know for sure is this: My FRS is going to be a nice little toy until I buy me my GTR again hehehe


Oh and the TRD exhaust and intake will most likely be coming off of the car......PM me if interested in either or both......My car is at 9500 miles and it came with the parts so they have 9500 miles on them. Let me guys

why not RB26DETT and throw in some axles for AWD

[slicktop]

Originally Posted by SilverSkyline210

why not RB26DETT and throw in some axles for AWD

Cause RB motors don't have the aftermarket the 2J/LS communities have.

[pixel67]

I would grab the short block and Stage2 from FBM if I had the cash to throw around. 600hp in a 2800lb car is more than any mere mortal needs and is borderline GTR slayer territory when you look at hp per lb.



No huge spikes in the torque curve so it should hook up pretty well assuming quality meat all around.

[jack43]

Originally Posted by pixel67

I would grab the short block and Stage2 from FBM if I had the cash to throw around. 600hp in a 2800lb car is more than any mere mortal needs and is borderline GTR slayer territory when you look at hp per lb.



No huge spikes in the torque curve so it should hook up pretty well assuming quality meat all around.

Here's a spreadsheet with specs on that car.. it's got 2x the power to weight of a stock GT-R.
Way ahead of most new supercars and nearly equal to a Veyron SS
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42085

Note that's flywheel HP and assuming 2700lb curb weight with seat deletes and other mods.

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Originally Posted by Yamajee

Maybe it's cheaper here in Dubai, a whole 2jz engine (including power steering and compressor) + 6 speed tranny would cost around $4000. Thousands of them in salvage yards.

a 6 speed tranny is dubai costs around 3000 dollars last time i checked, and barely anybody uses them because theyre rare and expensive and end up using an r154 ( 5 speed)

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by pixel67

I would grab the short block and Stage2 from FBM if I had the cash to throw around. 600hp in a 2800lb car is more than any mere mortal needs and is borderline GTR slayer territory when you look at hp per lb.



No huge spikes in the torque curve so it should hook up pretty well assuming quality meat all around.

Doesn't even make 300HP to 5K...