Cars that you wished were RWD

[Tim_Asphalt_FRS]

All of them.


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[hmong337]

I really think the Honda Accord Coupes should've been RWD.

Especially this sexy coupe

[Tgionet]

Originally Posted by chrisl

Really? That's fascinating - I wonder why they do that?

(That having been said, the Turbo already handles a lot like a rear-drive car - it's heavily rear biased, and will definitely power oversteer when pushed)

It works on all the PDK equipped 4wd cars afaik. Personally, I still don't like the PDK... or the electric power steering.

On topic:

The eclipse is one of those cars that should have been RWD, along with pretty much every front drive car that isn't a hot hatch. I spent my childhood sideways and covered in mud/snow, and as such shun any FWD abominations.

[chrisl]

Originally Posted by Tgionet

It works on all the PDK equipped 4wd cars afaik. Personally, I still don't like the PDK... or the electric power steering.

I have yet to drive a Porsche equipped with either PDK or electric power steering, so I don't yet have an opinion on either. I suspect I won't like them though.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by chrisl

I have yet to drive a Porsche equipped with either PDK or electric power steering, so I don't yet have an opinion on either. I suspect I won't like them though.

I was skeptical of electric power steering until I drove the FRS, if it can be done right for under $30k I'm sure Porsche nailed it. Remember the S2000 has EPS as well and is hailed as being one of the best sports cars ever and that was fifteen years ago, there should be zero issues now. Every review of the Porsche with EPS that I've read has been nothing but positive.

I drove an NC Miata before buying the 86, I think I can feel the difference where the Miata's hydraulic system has a bit of squish the 86 has a 'step' feel to it, kind of digital, but when you're turning in on the limit or cruising down the highway or even making a right hand turn into the parking lot it's the last thing on your mind.



No comment on the PDK, I don't think I'd like it either, but if you're wishing for the best of automatic with the best of manual it definitely makes sense, aside from the fun/nostalgia factor.

[Tgionet]

It's not that the electric power steering that Porsche uses is bad, it just doesn't feel like a Porsche.

[chrisl]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

I was skeptical of electric power steering until I drove the FRS, if it can be done right for under $30k I'm sure Porsche nailed it. Remember the S2000 has EPS as well and is hailed as being one of the best sports cars ever and that was fifteen years ago, there should be zero issues now. Every review of the Porsche with EPS that I've read has been nothing but positive.

I have no doubt it can be done right, but I've heard mixed reviews of it on the Porsche lineup, with one notable exception (the 991 GT3). I'm sure that it will be absolutely wonderful when they get the tuning right across the lineup, but they do have a very high bar to live up to, since Porsche hydraulic steering is one of the best out there, as far as feel is concerned. If you haven't had the chance to drive a hydraulically-assisted Porsche, you should sometime - the steering is unbelievably communicative and responsive. There's no "squish" to it at all, and IMHO, it's much better than the steering in the Miata.

[serialk11r]

One thing I did notice when sitting in some 991s at a dealer was that turning the steering wheel with the car off, the steering column is VERY stiff compared to a hydraulic rack where the wheel has a lot of play when unpowered. Didn't occur to me before but in theory this means you should be able to get very close to a manual rack if tuned right.

Unfortunately, Porsche has a factory option called "Power Steering Plus" for people who think the steering wheel (with assist!) is too heavy at low speeds and need extra help. Even though assist is supposed to go down to normal levels at speed, I can't help but wonder if this influences the response.

[Trashed675]

Originally Posted by SuiSid3l

The 2nd gen ford probe not being RWD was a travesty. Gorgeous car with a crazy weak drivetrain/tranny.

That was actually my first car(97 GT.......auto). Not even borla cat back/K&N short ram/KLZE throttle body could make it "quick" with that slush box. It did sound pretty good though.

[Allch Chcar]

I noticed that no one mentioned the MK1 Ford Focus ZX3.
It's been done plenty of times in the UK but I still enjoy seeing examples of successful swaps.

The most popular/cheapest method is to swap the floorpan of a Ford Sierra, sometimes even a Sierra Cosworth.
For those that like V8s, we have those. But they're much more expensive.

[JustBoostin]

Originally Posted by boxer 2.5

I still think they should make a special edition RWD STI or WRX. That would be baller.

Originally Posted by vividracing

How about a RWD GC8. Also I may be lame, but I really like the styling of the Altima Coupe.

A local buddy of mine made his GC8 RWD haha and it's excellent.

[crash.1340]

I too clicked on this immediately thinking 5G Prelude, mostly because I have one (and love it) and I too wish it were RWD. The lines, the proportions, it wouldn't be too terribly hard to do (relatively) and therefore I will do it one day. S2000 Transmission mated to a 3.5 or 3.7L V6 making roughly 315HP, yes please. That sucker would fly and handle with the best of them!

[crash.1340]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

I noticed that no one mentioned the MK1 Ford Focus ZX3.
It's been done plenty of times in the UK but I still enjoy seeing examples of successful swaps.
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The most popular/cheapest method is to swap the floorpan of a Ford Sierra, sometimes even a Sierra Cosworth.
For those that like V8s, we have those. But they're much more expensive.
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Here's a 351 powered RWD Focus absolutely running away from what looks like a BMW M3.

[Tgionet]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

One thing I did notice when sitting in some 991s at a dealer was that turning the steering wheel with the car off, the steering column is VERY stiff compared to a hydraulic rack where the wheel has a lot of play when unpowered. Didn't occur to me before but in theory this means you should be able to get very close to a manual rack if tuned right.

Unfortunately, Porsche has a factory option called "Power Steering Plus" for people who think the steering wheel (with assist!) is too heavy at low speeds and need extra help. Even though assist is supposed to go down to normal levels at speed, I can't help but wonder if this influences the response.

It doesn't influence the response, it just feels weird at parking lot speeds. But Porsche's party piece has always been their steering feel. On the hydraulically assisted models you can feel nearly every undulation in the road through the steering wheel whereas you don't with the electrically assisted models. There's also 0 dead zone in the wheel in the pre 9a1 models which isn't, or at least, wasn't true for the early 9a1 models.