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Old 10-27-2013, 03:54 PM   #1
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Using OBD2 Data to Calculate Tq/Hp

Is there a formula I can use to infer Torque or Horsepower from the OBD data? I know it's not completely accurate (but then again neither is a inertia dyno). I'd like to be able to calculate torque to asses changes to my engine.
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Is there a formula I can use to infer Torque or Horsepower from the OBD data? I know it's not completely accurate (but then again neither is a inertia dyno). I'd like to be able to calculate torque to asses changes to my engine.
here is a rough translation of the most basic version of the formula that innovate uses, which doesn't require an accelerometer. if you have an accelerometer you can get better results.

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values in () are reasonable defaults (not necessarily correct for the 86)

Vehicle weight in kg = m (580)
Tire diameter in cm = td (53)
Gear ratio of run = gear_ratio (1.5)
Final drive ratio = finaldrive (4.375)
i Name of RPM channel = rpm (RPM)
Frontal area of vehicle (sqm) = Ar (2)
Drag coefficient = Cd (0.45)
Current atmospheric pressure (millibar) = atmp (1013.2)
Current temperature (degC) = temp (15)

#SAE correction factor
SAEcf = (1.18 * ((990/atmp) * sqrt((temp + 273.15)/298)) )- 0.18

#air density
density = 0.0412236 * atmp/ (temp + 273.15)

R = td / 200 #tire radius in m

a = slope(RPM) * pi * td/(6000 *gear_ratio * finaldrive)
#acceleration in m/sec^2

# speed in m/sec
v = (RPM * R * pi ) / ( gear_ratio * finaldrive * 30)

# aerodynamic draq in Newton
Fa = 0.5 * density * (v^2) * Ar * Cd

F = m * a + Fa

trq = F * R / (gear_ratio * finaldrive) # in nm
hp = trq * rpm / 7121
not saying it works or is perfect, just that is what innovate uses.

you can calculate all of this realtime or afterwards from logs using the ot-2, which uses the accelerometer in your iphone in addition to the mts obd2 stream.
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Thanks for the input. I'm thinking that there should be a relationship between MAF (air consumed) and fuel flow. Since fuel has a known energy value and I know the AFR, there must be a a formula to connect this information. The only guess would be volumetric efficiency, but at WOT it must be only a 30% loss.
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The torqe app calculates it for you.
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