Jackson Racing Supercharger Press Release and Info - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

CSG Mike · 10-16-2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by digital_assassin

So from what I'm reading is that the oil cooler that comes with this kit is only for the Rotrex and not an engine oil cooler. The engine oil cooler will be available at a later date for an additional cost.

Correct. You can also use any engine oil cooler of your choice. The oil cooler included with the kit is for cooling the Rotrex Traction Fluid for the supercharger (it's cooling system is 100% independent of the engine, and doesn't dump heat into the engine oil or engine coolant, unlike some other systems).

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

It's mounted in the center, behind the intercooler on the undertray? I don't see it mounted anywhere in the pics from the press release, which is why I'm so curious where exactly it's mounted.

To clarify, a Perrin engine oil cooler kit as-is will not be compatible without modification and a new sandwich plate from JR, correct? Or could the fittings possibly be pointed to clear and require no modification?

Correct, it is mounted in the center behind the intercooler. However, you are able to mount it offset, so that you can have two side-by-side oil coolers, one for the Rotrex supercharger, and one for the engine oil. The system is designed to be useable by both casual street cars, and full-on track cars.

I don't see why you'd need a new sandwich plate unless the orientation of the fittings is incompatible. YOu'll probably need new lines to route properly. Unfortunately, we have no test mule with a Perrin cooler that also has the Jackson Racing supercharger kit, so we can't confirm or deny at this time.

digital_assassin · 10-16-2013, 12:42 PM

It seems as if this kit would need a rotated sandwhich plate similar to the Kraftwerks kit to turn away from the charge pipe but the angle of the photo doesn't make it clear enough for me to tell 100%

Danzzt231 · 10-16-2013, 12:47 PM

Oh yes, Rotrex!

This should make the car feels like it has a bigger engine instead of forced inducted. Perfect.

solidONE · 10-16-2013, 04:20 PM

CARB approval is a huge selling point. Warranty ain't bad either.

fenton · 10-16-2013, 04:45 PM

Am i missing something or is this thing making 160tq at 2500rpm stock? Its making more wtq than the manufacturer claimed flywheel torque....

This must be a very high reading dyno no?

Gains supercharged are still a percentage over stock i realize but i haven't seen dynapack numbers this high before.

Certainly i haven't ever seen numbers higher than manufactures claimed flywheel tq or hp though? How is that possible reading off the hubs?

Scooter Style · 10-16-2013, 04:58 PM

What fuel upgrades dows the kit come with?

MAPerformance · 10-16-2013, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenton

Am i missing something or is this thing making 160tq at 2500rpm stock? Its making more wtq than the manufacturer claimed flywheel torque....

This must be a very high reading dyno no?

Gains supercharged are still a percentage over stock i realize but i haven't seen dynapack numbers this high before.

Certainly i haven't ever seen numbers higher than manufactures claimed flywheel tq or hp though? How is that possible reading off the hubs?

Looks like a graph from a Dynapak hub dyno.

King Tut · 10-16-2013, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzzt231

Oh yes, Rotrex!

This should make the car feels like it has a bigger engine instead of forced inducted. Perfect.

I seem to recall hearing that same statement from another Cali vendor hocking another supercharger kit. Hmmm.

Calum · 10-16-2013, 05:57 PM

What fuel, compressor rpm, and pressure was the used in the setup for the posted dyno? Will there be an option to get Jackson Racing's tune without buying an additional license and cable for those that already have an Ecutek tune?

I've gotta agree with my fellow Canadian, @fenton those baseline numbers are really high. I'd say the torque is ~40 lbft high and the horsepower is ~20 hp high.

But, if you look at the percent gains that's about 44% increase in torque and 51% increase in horsepower. Just as advertised.

Adding those gains to the typical baseline of about ~120 lbft and ~165 hp, that should look like 172 lbft and 250 hp at peak on a dyno that would give the typical readings.

CSG Mike · 10-16-2013, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenton

Am i missing something or is this thing making 160tq at 2500rpm stock? Its making more wtq than the manufacturer claimed flywheel torque....

This must be a very high reading dyno no?

Gains supercharged are still a percentage over stock i realize but i haven't seen dynapack numbers this high before.

Certainly i haven't ever seen numbers higher than manufactures claimed flywheel tq or hp though? How is that possible reading off the hubs?

Focus on the % gain, not the actual numbers... at least, that's my take.

rskdsk · 10-16-2013, 06:20 PM

Looks like the automatic crowd is out of luck!

CSG Mike · 10-16-2013, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rskdsk

Looks like the automatic crowd is out of luck!

Not if there's enough interest

DJCarbine · 10-16-2013, 08:07 PM

Looks like a solid kit!

More options for supercharging is a win

xxscaxx · 10-16-2013, 08:51 PM

Looks like a great option. Sure is an ugly setup though

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