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tiz22 · 09-20-2013, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asinar

NOTE: The following is written by a NOT mechanical engineer.

If, in the course of your testing, you find the engine will have best longevity if limited to 4k for the first 40 hours, would you tell the user exactly that? We know full well that compliance to break-in instructions is poor. You don't want to create a situation where OCD-level compliance to instructions is mandatory for a reliable engine. At worst, you'd give them a conservative set of restrictions so that people who like to toe the line are still covered.

Now that the science of break-in is more fully understood than it was 10 or 20 years ago (when it was entirely superstition), you'd be able to design the engine such that the critical phase of the break-in period is performed at the factory (or at least under the control of the manufacturer). After that, the user is only responsible for not breaking it.

I definitely agree. The same concept applies to all facets of engineering...If you need to build an elevator to support 1000 pounds, you build it to support 3000 pounds and put a sign up that says "NO MORE THAN 1000 POUNDS"

Its called a safety factor. With that in mind, do you really want to test those limits? I personally do not as I want to keep this car as long as possible without major repairs...If redlining it the second it comes off the line helped to settle any seals or gaskets, my guess is they wouldn't recommend you do the exact opposite (why would they want your car to break?)

I appreciate all views/opinions on the matter, it is an endless discussion. My ONLY point to all of this is simple: You can either listen to the millions of people who have personal opinions/experiences/etc on the matter, or listen to the people who created the engine...I picked the latter as it seemed the most logical :happy0180:

thill · 09-20-2013, 04:19 PM

There are tons of threads on the break-in period arguments. It will never end. Do what you feel is best for you. Neither side of the argument is going to win.

luluma · 09-20-2013, 04:27 PM

any difference from 2013 to 2014?

HunterGreene · 09-20-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by luluma

any difference from 2013 to 2014?

Only things that are of consequence are knee pads and touchscreen audio.

Also, congrats on getting your car, OP

Hindi · 09-20-2013, 04:39 PM

I'd like to see the differences as well

Burrcold · 09-20-2013, 04:52 PM

So the '14 FR-S gets knee pads but the '14 BRZ doesn't? I assumed that it was just cost effective to put the knee pads in all models worldwide...guess not.

Oh and congrats to the OP!

Hindi · 09-20-2013, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burrcold

So the '14 FR-S gets knee pads but the '14 BRZ doesn't? I assumed that it was just cost effective to put the knee pads in all models worldwide...guess not.

Oh and congrats to the OP!

Brz already has alacantra :p no knee pads for you.

Burrcold · 09-20-2013, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hindi

Brz already has alacantra :p no knee pads for you.

Hey I paid GOOD money for that alcantara!

Even more reason I should have knee pads!

DaJo · 09-20-2013, 05:03 PM

Screw this, I'm going to my local Toyota dealer and ordering my knee pads...

Does the 2014 come with speaker surround knee pads as well??

dehydratedH2O · 09-20-2013, 05:22 PM

2014 BRZ is supposed to come with knee pads.

Calavera · 09-20-2013, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaJo

Screw this, I'm going to my local Toyota dealer and ordering my knee pads...

Does the 2014 come with speaker surround knee pads as well??

Yes. Knee pads on middle console and door speakers. All with nice matching red stitching.

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jarviz · 09-20-2013, 05:31 PM

2013 > 2014

Brndn704 · 09-20-2013, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiz22

I definitely agree. The same concept applies to all facets of engineering...If you need to build an elevator to support 1000 pounds, you build it to support 3000 pounds and put a sign up that says "NO MORE THAN 1000 POUNDS"

Its called a safety factor. With that in mind, do you really want to test those limits? I personally do not as I want to keep this car as long as possible without major repairs...If redlining it the second it comes off the line helped to settle any seals or gaskets, my guess is they wouldn't recommend you do the exact opposite (why would they want your car to break?)

I appreciate all views/opinions on the matter, it is an endless discussion. My ONLY point to all of this is simple: You can either listen to the millions of people who have personal opinions/experiences/etc on the matter, or listen to the people who created the engine...I picked the latter as it seemed the most logical :happy0180:

The people who created the engine did not create the driving manual. The people in the legal department created it.

However, I still recommend a slight break in period.

cfordart · 09-20-2013, 06:22 PM

Well crap, my dealer's telling me he can't get a 14 yet! Told them month's ago to let me know when he can get me firestorm m/t. Somebody's stonewallin' I think...

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