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Old 09-16-2013, 09:04 PM   #29
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Luis, oversteer is nice and all but in back to back transitions the FR-S tends to get very twitchy while the BRZ stays more stable. But don't take my word for it, many autocrossers and auto testers can confirm it. Aside from all that I preferred the BRZ in practically every dimension so it was the car to buy.
I couldn't, mainly cause PR doesn't have any BRZ's, I may have bought one if it was available due to the features... thankfully the 10 Series arrived and I got the good looking front bumper
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:28 PM   #30
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One of my buddies who is a mechanical engineer and a subaru junkie told me about this issue with the BRZ, and I trust the guy. I don't have hard evidence but he hasn't steered me wrong, and besides how could someone come up with that off the top of there head? oh and you were right about the pics
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One of my buddies who is a mechanical engineer and a subaru junkie told me about this issue with the BRZ, and I trust the guy. I don't have hard evidence but he hasn't steered me wrong, and besides how could someone come up with that off the top of there head? oh and you were right about the pics
Being a mechanical engineer doesn't mean he know anything about cars...

Next thing I know you're going to tell me that my FR-S has the engine moved to the front as well...
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:34 PM   #32
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Being a mechanical engineer doesn't mean he know anything about cars...

Next thing I know you're going to tell me that my FR-S has the engine moved to the front as well...
the guy rebuilds engines for a living I think he knows a thing or 2 about the positioning. But enough arguing ill look into it myself and if I find that there is or isn't a difference I will post it.
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the guy rebuilds engines for a living I think he knows a thing or 2 about the positioning. But enough arguing ill look into it myself and if I find that there is or isn't a difference I will post it.
Let me help you...

HE'S WRONG!

Know you know.

PS, building engines has nothing to do with the position it goes into a car...
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Old 09-16-2013, 11:11 PM   #34
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One of my buddies who is a mechanical engineer and a subaru junkie told me about this issue with the BRZ, and I trust the guy. I don't have hard evidence but he hasn't steered me wrong, and besides how could someone come up with that off the top of there head? oh and you were right about the pics
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the guy rebuilds engines for a living I think he knows a thing or 2 about the positioning. But enough arguing ill look into it myself and if I find that there is or isn't a difference I will post it.
I'm a mechanical engineer and I'm telling you he's wrong. But let's introduce some common sense into the equation.

Does it make sense that two cars that are produced in the same factory by one company and engineered by the same teams for both and are the same in every single design detail and almost every single styling detail would have the engine moved in any direction relative to the other car? Do you know how much work and engineering would have to be done to do that? It wouldn't exactly be easy.

Furthermore what about keyless start, dual zone climate controller and bi-xenon headlamps make you think that those options would require fundamental design changes? This is not as simple as some guy steered you wrong, this goes to a level that displays a complete lack of critical thinking ability and simple rational thought. I actually feel kind of bad for you because your life cannot be easy if you're truly that simple, illogical, and gullible.
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Old 09-16-2013, 11:24 PM   #35
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as a professional internet comment engineer I can safely say that the brz is better because it comes with the turbo
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Old 09-16-2013, 11:25 PM   #36
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My engine is the FA20S. S stands for Super. It's an easter egg that gear heads at the plant put in. It produces 300hp. Quality control never caught on to it. My identity may be revealed now that this information has been leaked. Check your blocks.. Look for the S.

It's no coincidence that the new iPhone was just announced too!

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Old 09-16-2013, 11:44 PM   #37
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Ultimate trolling,

my mind is so full of fuck.jpg

On topic

My friend, even though I told him the price breakdown of my car, thinks someone could afford it making $8 an hour cash. I try to talk sense into him saying after taxes and financing its gonna be around 30k he doesn't get it
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Old 09-16-2013, 11:47 PM   #38
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I paid more for features I wanted that weren't available in the Scion. Idiot.

Well idiot my 10 Series was only $27K with most of your features on your car so you got fucked.

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Old 09-16-2013, 11:50 PM   #39
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Pffft... I'm the overpriced champ here... Mine was $34495! SUCK IT!
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Old 09-16-2013, 11:52 PM   #40
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as a professional internet comment engineer I can safely say that the brz is better because it comes with the turbo
Oh really? Well my FRS came with a TWIN turbo, and NOS.
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as a professional internet comment engineer I can safely say that the brz is better because it comes with the turbo
and it's awd, cuz subaru
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Old 09-16-2013, 11:56 PM   #42
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Well idiot my 10 Series was only $27K with most of your features on your car so you got fucked.

See anyone can talk shit.
That's cute, I paid 27,200 and got more features than you did, and I don't have to tell people I drive a Scion!

Learn 2 shit talk better fool. But on the serial, the BRZ is a better buy than the 10 series (unless you have a hard on for the color) and I bought my BRZ before the 10 series came along. Oh yeah and this is Subaru #5 for me, kinda have a preference for them.
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