Lowest $ Amount Someone Has Thought You Paid For Your FR-S?

[GT86meMR2]

Most of them think 40.000€ here however the GT86/BRZ do look more expensive than a FR-S have never heard anyone say the interior looks like shit though and when you know that everyone and their momma drives BMW/Audi/Mercedes here than that's saying alot, i dont know the differences in the interior between the FR-S and GT86/BRZ though

[s0sl0w]

Originally Posted by ric342

lol so u paid more for a car that is the same (talk more shit man)

I paid more for features I wanted that weren't available in the Scion. Idiot.

[ric342]

Originally Posted by s0sl0w

I paid more for features I wanted that weren't available in the Scion. Idiot.

Im not hating on any car just stating the facts. you can buy the mods yourself for less than they charge "idiot" the radio is garbage and the push button start is the only redeemable feature, and bedsides did u notice that because they added all those additional features they had to move the engine forward? this is a forum don't be calling people names, show respect and dont talk shit

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by ric342

and bedsides did u notice that because they added all those additional features they had to move the engine forward?

speechless

[yarik83]

If you ask me I think both frs and brz are overpriced. But then so is scion tc. Let's forget for a moment that this is a sports car. Let's look at the facts. All of the cars are overpriced. You walk into a stealership and this is what you see: overpriced, overpriced, overpriced, overpriced, sort of overpriced, sort of overprice, way overpriced, way overpriced, totally out of your league, astronomically overpriced.

I really don't know what the golden value should be but car value feels like a bad investment when compared to something like a house. For $25,000 you can buy a single wide mobile home. For $50,000 you can buy a double wide mobile home. Both will last you (assuming you want to live in that type of building) pretty much a life time and at the end after 50 some odd years they will still sell for at least half the price you paid into them.

A car like Toyota Sienna costs what... $26 grand. + whatever upkeep and maintenance. By end of its life you would have probably spent $40,000 on the car. And if you think about why cars cost so much it is because of silly stuff like "in car vacuum cleaner". Why can't you take a good old extension cord and do it like all normal people did for 70+ years? It is every silly gadget that you do not need on the car. It is every pointless gadget on the car.

Does my tacoma really need 13 cup holders? 2 in each of four doors, 5 in center console. How about the little gadget that tells me how hot it is... that never worked right and then broke and costs $700 to replace at the dealer?! It is stuff like that that makes cars overpriced.

So when people look at a car such as frs or brz... there does not seem much value in it, much like sitting inside an evo or a wrx... it looks plain... because it is a driver's car.

When frs consept came out I was really hoping it would be a $20,000 car. But it is not and it won't be for a very long time. But err... either way people will throw the prices out into the air because they are not familiar with the car. There is no general knowledge of frs to an extent that say... a camry is known for.

[Frstorm]

Yarick- why by a partial home for 50k when you can get a home in Michigan for half that? See you logic doesn't even make sense. No offense but I got a frs to drive. I get a home to sell for more money than I paid for it. Double wides aren't worth it. Much better buying a fixer upper and in ten years after akl the fixes are done by yourself sell it for double buy a house for cash and live mortgage free with your logic. Seriously who buys a car as an investment? To me ill have my frs till I die. I only buy new cars I want for life and easily buy a cheap dd that is disposable.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by yarik83

If you ask me I think both frs and brz are overpriced.

Why did you pay >$15k for that Tacoma? I've spent about $3k on my Nissan, I get 23 mpg and it has done everything I have asked of it and I can sell it for at least $2k, if not more. What can your truck do that mine can't? Seems overpriced to me...

[s0sl0w]

Originally Posted by ric342

Im not hating on any car just stating the facts. you can buy the mods yourself for less than they charge "idiot" the radio is garbage and the push button start is the only redeemable feature, and bedsides did u notice that because they added all those additional features they had to move the engine forward? this is a forum don't be calling people names, show respect and dont talk shit

It's always neat when ever you hit the nail on the head. Calling you an idiot wasn't name calling, it was stating fact.

The engine is in the exact same place. And you could not add keyless start, alcantra, satnav, auto climate control, and bixenons properly at OEM quality levels for anywhere near $2,000. Not too mention the BRZ suspension is better setup.

[Luis_GT]

Originally Posted by ric342

Im not hating on any car just stating the facts. you can buy the mods yourself for less than they charge "idiot" the radio is garbage and the push button start is the only redeemable feature, and bedsides did u notice that because they added all those additional features they had to move the engine forward? this is a forum don't be calling people names, show respect and dont talk shit

I'm sorry... but are you serious? With your lack of knowledge of the twins, and your lack of sentence structure, you just proved the man was right...

Originally Posted by s0sl0w

Not too mention the BRZ suspension is better setup.

I disagree... Oversteer > Understeer

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by s0sl0w

Not to mention the BRZ suspension is better setup.

Originally Posted by Luis_GT

I disagree... Oversteer > Understeer

The suspension setups are endlessly debatable and this isn't the place, lets go back to how overpriced this car is and how keyless entry moves the engine forward...

[campy]

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(after trade in)

[ric342]

Originally Posted by s0sl0w

It's always neat when ever you hit the nail on the head. Calling you an idiot wasn't name calling, it was stating fact.

The engine is in the exact same place. And you could not add keyless start, alcantra, satnav, auto climate control, and bixenons properly at OEM quality levels for anywhere near $2,000. Not too mention the BRZ suspension is better setup.

no it is not put the car side by side the engine in the brz is pushed forward a little... nothing else needs to be said think what you may but, if you don't believe me do the research.

think what you may and so will I! douche

[Luis_GT]

Originally Posted by ric342

no it is not put the car side by side the engine in the brz is pushed forward a little... nothing else needs to be said think what you may but, if you don't believe me do the research.

[s0sl0w]

Originally Posted by ric342

no it is not put the car side by side the engine in the brz is pushed forward a little... nothing else needs to be said think what you may but, if you don't believe me do the research.

think what you may and so will I! douche

Perspective, how do you work? You obviously have no idea what you're talking about but since you insist that you're correct please show me the technical documentation that you've seen that states this "fact" p.s. photos of the ngine bay are not technical documentation, even if they were actually taken from the same position amd perspective.

Luis, oversteer is nice and all but in back to back transitions the FR-S tends to get very twitchy while the BRZ stays more stable. But don't take my word for it, many autocrossers and auto testers can confirm it. Aside from all that I preferred the BRZ in practically every dimension so it was the car to buy.