Organic clutch?

[spitfire481]

If you go avo and your car is anything like mine, I'm under 300whp but at 260 tq. With a supercharger the tq is much less so you can get away with a lower clutch rating

[ecko04]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Looks good. Oh wait, no it doesn't for 300 whp and 250 ft-lbs.

Works for the numbers in your sarcastic quote

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by ecko04

Works for the numbers in your sarcastic quote

No it doesn't. Where are you guys getting this misinformation? That clutch from the manufacturer says it can hold 203 ft-lbs at the wheels. Nearly all turbo kits and even some of the supercharger kits are making more than that.

[phloozy]

Originally Posted by King Tut

No it doesn't. Where are you guys getting this misinformation? That clutch from the manufacturer says it can hold 203 ft-lbs at the wheels. Nearly all turbo kits and even some of the pathetic little supercharger kits are making more than that.

FTFY!

[ZionsWrath]

I don't know I'd consider them pathetic. I'm trying to be objective in my decision but if my goal is the power an SC can achieve, I don't need an oil pump [to the turbo] or my oil pan drilled, I can install in my backyard without lifting the car off the ground.

I mean if you can tell me or link me why a turbo is way better I'm all ears because I want the most cost effective DD setup with regular track use around 300whp, otherwise just saying SC is pathetic is kind of useless...

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by ZionsWrath

I don't know I'd consider them pathetic. I'm trying to be objective in my decision but if my goal is the power an SC can achieve, I don't need an oil pump [to the turbo] or my oil pan drilled, I can install in my backyard without lifting the car off the ground.

I mean if you can tell me or link me why a turbo is way better I'm all ears because I want the most cost effective DD setup with regular track use around 300whp, otherwise just saying SC is pathetic is kind of useless...

LOLz.. he's an Innovate owner, he's just being silly.

[ecko04]

Originally Posted by King Tut

No it doesn't. Where are you guys getting this misinformation? That clutch from the manufacturer says it can hold 203 ft-lbs at the wheels. Nearly all turbo kits and even some of the supercharger kits are making more than that.

It's pretty simple.

It's a clutch that comes highly recommended. I've used it in the past and one that I recently purchased to use again.

My last Exedy stage 1 took the 280 ft-lbs I threw at it every day for 4 years until I traded in the car and when I had the clutch uninstalled to return to stock it was in great shape. I'd say 70K boosted miles is pretty impressive.

It's a clutch that retains OEM driveability and clutch feel. It's the clutch Ptuning recommended back then, it's the clutch they recommend for their own turbo system now. I tend to trust them because of the quality of work they do and the research they do. They don't recommend a thing if they haven't beat on it and used it themselves. Vendors wouldn't recommend it if it weren't capable of handling the additional strain.

I have experience with it at the power levels the OP is trying to achieve, that's why I recommended it.

If the clutch fails I'll eat crow and say it, I have no problem with that. I've had clutches fail in the past, springs pop right out the pressure plate and I was nowhere near the power the manufacturer claimed they could hold. It never happened with the Exedy clutch.

[xxscaxx]

Originally Posted by ecko04

It's pretty simple.

It's a clutch that comes highly recommended. I've used it in the past and one that I recently purchased to use again.

My last Exedy stage 1 took the 280 ft-lbs I threw at it every day for 4 years until I traded in the car and when I had the clutch uninstalled to return to stock it was in great shape. I'd say 70K boosted miles is pretty impressive.

It's a clutch that retains OEM driveability and clutch feel. It's the clutch Ptuning recommended back then, it's the clutch they recommend for their own turbo system now. I tend to trust them because of the quality of work they do and the research they do. They don't recommend a thing if they haven't beat on it and used it themselves. Vendors wouldn't recommend it if it weren't capable of handling the additional strain.

I have experience with it at the power levels the OP is trying to achieve, that's why I recommended it.

If the clutch fails I'll eat crow and say it, I have no problem with that. I've had clutches fail in the past, springs pop right out the pressure plate and I was nowhere near the power the manufacturer claimed they could hold. It never happened with the Exedy clutch.

Comforting to hear you have real world testing, but it still scares me to buy that clutch. It sucks because I want it, and I know PTuning suggested it, but I would be severely pissed if I installed it and had it slip on me after a little while and have to pull the tranny down again to swap it out.

Plus trying not to waste money, but TBH I think I still rather have this clutch than the others people suggest. meh

[ecko04]

Originally Posted by xxscaxx

Comforting to hear you have real world testing, but it still scares me to buy that clutch. It sucks because I want it, and I know PTuning suggested it, but I would be severely pissed if I installed it and had it slip on me after a little while and have to pull the tranny down again to swap it out.

Plus trying not to waste money, but TBH I think I still rather have this clutch than the others people suggest. meh

That's totally understandable. It never slipped and that was back in my younger days when I really the beat the shit out of my cars. It's my own experience that caused me to go back to it.

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[xxscaxx]

Originally Posted by ecko04

That's totally understandable. It never slipped and that was back in my younger days when I really the beat the shit out of my cars. It's my own experience that caused me to go back to it.

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I don't beat on my car which is why I was thinking of trying it out..but its just a gamble.

Who am I kidding, I will probably buy it

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by ecko04

It's pretty simple.

It's a clutch that comes highly recommended. I've used it in the past and one that I recently purchased to use again.

My last Exedy stage 1 took the 280 ft-lbs I threw at it every day for 4 years until I traded in the car and when I had the clutch uninstalled to return to stock it was in great shape. I'd say 70K boosted miles is pretty impressive.

So you put 70,000 miles on a previously owned turbo BRZ/FR-S? Because unless you did, your experience is invalid in this case because we are talking about a different car with a different clutch design. What car was this previous Exedy Stage 1 clutch installed on?

[ecko04]

Originally Posted by King Tut

So you put 70,000 miles on a previously owned turbo BRZ/FR-S? Because unless you did, your experience is invalid in this case because we are talking about a different car with a different clutch design. What car was this previous Exedy Stage 1 clutch installed on?

If you want to get into a back and forth about the reasoning why I recommend the clutch and prior vehicles, I cleaned out my inbox for you. Feel free to fill it up.

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[phloozy]

Why do people feel the need to take things to PM? There are other interested parties.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by phloozy

Why do people feel the need to take things to PM? There are other interested parties.

There was nothing big in the PM. Here are the cliffs:

ecko04 will be using the Exedy Organic Clutch
ecko04 has used one on his previous two non BRZ/FR-S forced induction builds with success
ecko04's shop of choice recommends the Exedy Organic Clutch
ecko04's OPINION is that the Exedy Organic Clutch can hold much more torque than the 203 ft-lbs it is rated to hold by Exedy themselves
King Tut expressed to ecko04 that he is stating an opinion and not a fact