Innovate SuperCharger Discount up for grabs!!

[chadstyle]

Originally Posted by Sypher

This statement only shows you could never make a living selling anything. If I am given something for free or discounted from a vendor that i don't need I'm going to sell the thing for a slightly discounted price so i can make a fat profit while making sure it moves quickly (so you don't have idle inventory or in this case a use by date). It's really very simple sales.

Now if her dollar amount is in fact too high for the product in the current market then the product doesn't sell. Simple. But just because you think the amount is too high does not mean someone else will. There are plenty of people who will do just about anything to save a buck while getting what they want.

And this statement shows your ignorance and lack of research. My business would be nothing without sales but I wouldn't be half as successful as I am if I had such poor ethics to charge for what I paid nothing for. I include those freebies as incentives to buy my products. As I said before, charging someone for something you got for free is just bad karma.

[bakerr6]

It's ok some people do not understand many of the intangibles to run a successful business. Ask Greg at tic. I paid more for my konis by buying them through him and knew it ahead of time but I value the relationship portion that he has for our community

[Sypher]

Originally Posted by chadstyle

And this statement shows your ignorance and lack of research. My business would be nothing without sales but I wouldn't be half as successful as I am if I had such poor ethics to charge for what I paid nothing for. I include those freebies as incentives to buy my products. As I said before, charging someone for something you got for free is just bad karma.

I'll eat crow on not doing my research on you or your business (I'm not a P.I.) but I'm willing to bet you give away small things for free. things of relatively low value. An item of large value is pretty easy to make fair money for.

If I get product X for free that is worth $1000.00 I'm not going to just give it to Y customer just because. I might sell it for $200 if they are a good customer (I would still be providing a service and I like to charge for my services. I don't work for free.) If the customer is Joe Blow off of the streets I would try to make more money. Is this horrible ethics?

If the customer is happy with what they buy and I make some money in doing so, is that not a good transaction?

Originally Posted by bakerr6

It's ok some people do not understand many of the intangibles to run a successful business. Ask Greg at tic. I paid more for my konis by buying them through him and knew it ahead of time but I value the relationship portion that he has for our community

You simply feel comfortable paying more because you receive superior customer service and value his relationship with the community (absolutely nothing wrong with this). In other words you are willing to pay more for more service.

I have many customers that come and buy from me that could easily go down the road and buy from a competitor at a cheaper price for the same material. They buy from me and the company i work for because we provide superior customer service and a quicker turnaround time.

[chadstyle]

Originally Posted by Sypher

I'll eat crow on not doing my research on you or your business (I'm not a P.I.) but I'm willing to bet you give away small things for free. things of relatively low value. An item of large value is pretty easy to make fair money for.

If I get product X for free that is worth $1000.00 I'm not going to just give it to Y customer just because. I might sell it for $200 if they are a good customer (I would still be providing a service and I like to charge for my services. I don't work for free.) If the customer is Joe Blow off of the streets I would try to make more money. Is this horrible ethics?

If the customer is happy with what they buy and I make some money in doing so, is that not a good transaction?



You simply feel comfortable paying more because you receive superior customer service and value his relationship with the community (absolutely nothing wrong with this). In other words you are willing to pay more for more service.

I have many customers that come and buy from me that could easily go down the road and buy from a competitor at a cheaper price for the same material. They buy from me and the company i work for because we provide superior customer service and a quicker turnaround time.

Well thank you for being honest, I appreciate it. The fact is that she didn't really win anything of REAL value. She won a "coupon" for a discount off MSRP on an item. I shopped this item when it originally came out and the prices I was quoted, installed, were still FAR cheaper than a $750 discount of retail.

Let's change the scenario a little..not much else going on in this thread so I doubt the OP cares..

I go on the Price is right.. Woohoo!! I make it up on stage, win the game i played, and Drew Carey gives me a new car. Awesome!! So now I have to pay CA sales tax on the prize and I also need to make arrangements to get the car shipped home. So I walk away with a $19K car for $3k in taxes and transport fees. Chances are I'm not going to want the car and I'm going to sale it...do I list it for $3k?? Hell no! I list it for KBB.

The difference is a tangible product and a coupon. A coupon is used to entice a potential customer to buy a product. The OP can't use the coupon as the rules of the coupon state she can't use two together. SO GIVE AWAY THE SPARE OR THROW THE DAMN THING AWAY! I mean seriously, what a joke this entire thread has turned into. The greed of the OP has shown through and no one is willing to waste a dollar on the worthless piece of paper.

If anyone wants a $750 discount, call up FA20Club. It's pretty easy.

Maybe I should charge $500 for that info^^

Really is a moronic thread.

[utekineir]

Originally Posted by chadstyle

Well thank you for being honest, I appreciate it. The fact is that she didn't really win anything of REAL value. She won a "coupon" for a discount off MSRP on an item. I shopped this item when it originally came out and the prices I was quoted, installed, were still FAR cheaper than a $750 discount of retail.


If anyone wants a $750 discount, call up FA20Club. It's pretty easy.

This

what amounts to a $250 discount off msrp is silly when nobody is paying msrp.

ops economics are from fantasy land.

Real world price is not equal to msrp with most items.

That said, were it as anything other than a no lube ass fucking it would have probably sold by now.

[s2d4]

I think I'll just give my inheritance away, it was free anyway.

Karma is for morons with a lack of understanding of probability and/or chaotic theory.

[Area86]

Originally Posted by chadstyle

If anyone wants a $750 discount, call up FA20Club. It's pretty easy.

Maybe I should charge $500 for that info^^

Really is a moronic thread.

So your saying FA20club is selling the Innovate kit for $2445??

OP could buy a second kit for $2445 and then sell it as BNIB for probably around $2800-$2900. Didn't a used kit just sell for around 3k?

[troek]

So u guys are saying companies are willing to haggle prices on this kit?

[utekineir]

Originally Posted by troek

So u guys are saying companies are willing to haggle prices on this kit?

http://www.tf-works.com/innovate-twi...stage-1-tuner/

[troek]

Tax season cant come soon enough

[Sypher]

Originally Posted by chadstyle

Well thank you for being honest, I appreciate it. The fact is that she didn't really win anything of REAL value. She won a "coupon" for a discount off MSRP on an item. I shopped this item when it originally came out and the prices I was quoted, installed, were still FAR cheaper than a $750 discount of retail.

Let's change the scenario a little..not much else going on in this thread so I doubt the OP cares..

I go on the Price is right.. Woohoo!! I make it up on stage, win the game i played, and Drew Carey gives me a new car. Awesome!! So now I have to pay CA sales tax on the prize and I also need to make arrangements to get the car shipped home. So I walk away with a $19K car for $3k in taxes and transport fees. Chances are I'm not going to want the car and I'm going to sale it...do I list it for $3k?? Hell no! I list it for KBB.

The difference is a tangible product and a coupon. A coupon is used to entice a potential customer to buy a product. The OP can't use the coupon as the rules of the coupon state she can't use two together. SO GIVE AWAY THE SPARE OR THROW THE DAMN THING AWAY! I mean seriously, what a joke this entire thread has turned into. The greed of the OP has shown through and no one is willing to waste a dollar on the worthless piece of paper.

If anyone wants a $750 discount, call up FA20Club. It's pretty easy.

Maybe I should charge $500 for that info^^

Really is a moronic thread.

You are absolutely correct about the coupon being a way to get customers to come in and buy the product but IMO you are missing the fact that while the coupon holds no monetary value it does in fact hold value with Innovate Motor Sports. It also holds value for the person who has already planned to buy an Innovate Motor Sport supercharger kit (assuming there is one out there at which I'm sure there is at least one).

Another point I want to make is that I never said $500 was a correct or justifiable price point for the coupon. In fact I said "Now if her dollar amount is in fact too high for the product in the current market then the product doesn't sell." Maybe the correct price point will be $400 or $249.99 or $1. I can't say for sure because I'm not in the market to buy the aforementioned kit. However we know that one person offered up $200. At this point we know for a fact that the coupon in question is worth a real value of at least $200.

Now IMHO $500 is fair seeing as you can instantly save $250 on a product that you would probably would have bought at full price anyway.

[bakerr6]

Originally Posted by Sypher

You are absolutely correct about the coupon being a way to get customers to come in and buy the product but IMO you are missing the fact that while the coupon holds no monetary value it does in fact hold value with Innovate Motor Sports. It also holds value for the person who has already planned to buy an Innovate Motor Sport supercharger kit (assuming there is one out there at which I'm sure there is at least one).

Another point I want to make is that I never said $500 was a correct or justifiable price point for the coupon. In fact I said "Now if her dollar amount is in fact too high for the product in the current market then the product doesn't sell." Maybe the correct price point will be $400 or $249.99 or $1. I can't say for sure because I'm not in the market to buy the aforementioned kit. However we know that one person offered up $200. At this point we know for a fact that the coupon in question is worth a real value of at least $200.

Now IMHO $500 is fair seeing as you can instantly save $250 on a product that you would probably would have bought at full price anyway.

there's a lot of variables that go into whether that would be beneficial for someone or not. If you live in cali, might as well buy it at adifferent shop for under msrp, bc you will come out better

[chadstyle]

Originally Posted by Area86

So your saying FA20club is selling the Innovate kit for $2445??

OP could buy a second kit for $2445 and then sell it as BNIB for probably around $2800-$2900. Didn't a used kit just sell for around 3k?

I've been quoted $3000-3100 installed from 2 shops.

[chadstyle]

Originally Posted by s2d4

I think I'll just give my inheritance away, it was free anyway.

Karma is for morons with a lack of understanding of probability and/or chaotic theory.

You're obviously missing the point. No one said anything about inheritance. Again, cash is tangible and someone in your family worked very hard for that $$.

If Karma is for morons then call me an idiot. I'm a Christian and I believe in doing right by others. Just because I have these beliefs doesn't make me any less successful.

Do you see the wild popularity of the OP? Have you seen the countless offers and endless queue of people begging for this coupon? If this was a good deal then someone would've scooped it up the day she posted the offer but instead it has divided many amongst the controversy of her business practices.
@s2d4 I personally extend an invitation for you to come see my home and visit my business. I'd love to give you a tour and when we're done you can tell me about my lack of understanding. I'd be happy to show you that you can be a "good guy" and be successful too.

Best regards,

Chad