Sway Bars..Do they really make a difference for a DD?

[Racecomp Engineering]

Swaybars are just one part of the system. Can larger ones be used to make a car faster? Yes, of course. Can you really screw things up? Yeah you can do that too. You have to look at the complete set-up when choosing bars and you're goals. OEM has it's own design goals.

Our bars are designed to be used as a set and I wouldn't recommend them for every single customer either. We do still sell the Whitelines.

- Andrew

[Books]

Here's my inexperienced input: I didn't like the body roll that much so I got some Hotchkis front and rear sways. Doesn't make my daily any faster but I can definitely notice the difference. Do I need it? Not really, the car handles great already BUT I got a great deal and they're adjustable.

It's a cheap upgrade and really up to you. There's no "need" for any upgrades in a daily as the car handles awesome to begin with.

[Not4off]

I agree with the statement that the car handles pretty well right off the showroom floor. Certainly less body roll than a stock Miata. But once the car ventures onto the track...shouldn't the first mod be to increase negative camber particularly in the front which is practically zero from the factory? The idea being to improve the contact patch and save the outboard tire shoulder from premature wear. Once that is attended to...then better tires.

Is there anyone out there that has just added front camber bolts?

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Not4off

I agree with the statement that the car handles pretty well right off the showroom floor. Certainly less body roll than a stock Miata. But once the car ventures onto the track...shouldn't the first mod be to increase negative camber particularly in the front which is practically zero from the factory? The idea being to improve the contact patch and save the outboard tire shoulder from premature wear. Once that is attended to...then better tires.

Is there anyone out there that has just added front camber bolts?

an alignment should always be the first "mod." if not to be more aggressive, simply to get a more precise alignment as the tolerances from the factory are pretty wide. that being said, a sway bar may or may not provide the visceral improvement over an alignment. with a low cog and little body roll, i dont know how much camber you need

[Racecomp Engineering]

I agree that an alignment should essentially be done once off the showroom floor.

- andrew

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

I agree that an alignment should essentially be done once off the showroom floor.

- andrew

On principle I agree, but how many of us are installing alignment-altering items within the first few thousand miles? That's why I haven't bothered with one yet.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

On principle I agree, but how many of us are installing alignment-altering items within the first few thousand miles? That's why I haven't bothered with one yet.

An alignment should be done off the showroom floor....along with springs, bushings, wheels, tires, recaros, alcantera steering wheel, swaybars, etc.

Okay maybe not.

- Andrew

[Miniata]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

On principle I agree, but how many of us are installing alignment-altering items within the first few thousand miles? That's why I haven't bothered with one yet.

I installed the Subaru camber/crash bolts before my BRZ hit 1500 miles. I usually do my own alignments though.

[nix]

I have KW v3s with whiteline front caster bushings, subframe & diff inserts and whiteline 20/16mm adjustable sways. Very happy with the front end on the middle setting but the rear bar is a bit too durifto for me in mid/high speed.

[448hpsti]

go softer

[ill86]

Originally Posted by nix

I have KW v3s with whiteline front caster bushings, subframe & diff inserts and whiteline 20/16mm adjustable sways. Very happy with the front end on the middle setting but the rear bar is a bit too durifto for me in mid/high speed.

What type and size tire?
Tire pressure front and rear?
Alignment settings?
What do you consider mid/high speed?

My point? Too many variables. Suspension setup is both an art and science. But in the end, usually left up to the driver's / team's preference.

Thanks for sharing.

[frs10]

my question goes back to OP, why do you need this for a DD?

unless ur DD consist of F&F racing in the streets?