Best handling car?

[A_CENT11]

Z06, Cayman

[Suberman]

Originally Posted by fatoni

youre going to have to define hanlding. also the gtr is a six figure car

The only reasonable definition of handling for a street car must include a car that can be driven every day, anywhere and in any weather without trying to kill you.

Many "great handling" cars are evil machines useless for road driving and hopeless to drive every day.

If you want to drive a race car, then buy one and track it. If you want a street car that is actually useable daily in all weathers and on any road and handles very well you need a Cayman or a BRZ if you live in North America. Nothing else comes close.

Whether the C7 Corvette comes close remains an open question but given past Corvettes I suspect not. All Corvettes built up to the C6 are hard riding and unforgiving cars you'd be mad to try and drive in winter.

[Wolfking]

I can't answer this until I lower it, install a front STB and get 225 sized tires. Once this is completed, I'll get back to you...

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Suberman

The only reasonable definition of handling for a street car is a car must include a car that can be driven every day, anywhere in any weather without trying to kill you.

Many "great handling" cars are evil machines useless for road driving and hopeless to drive every day.

If you want to drive a race car, then buy one and track it. If you want a street car that is actually useable daily in all weathers and on any road and handles very well you need a Cayman or a BRZ if you live in North America. Nothing else comes close.

Whether the C7 Corvette comes close remains an open question but given past Corvettes I suspect not. All Corvettes built up to the C6 are hard riding and unforgiving cars you'd be mad to try and drive in winter.

thats not really a definition of handling. according to the bold, my ls430 is a better handler than my miata, ae86, crx and msp. objectively, corvettes have a way of annihilate just about everything south of six figures. not my personal preference but you cant argue numbers.

[Sonolin]

Cayman > Elise > 86

My preference at least . Although I haven't driven either of the higher priced cars I wish I could have the chance

[gt8613]

Would you say that the increment of perfection among them is marginal?

Originally Posted by Sonolin

Cayman > Elise > 86

My preference at least . Although I haven't driven either of the higher priced cars I wish I could have the chance

[Sonolin]

Originally Posted by gt8613

Would you say that the increment of perfection among them is marginal?

I guess. But again I haven't driven them so Idk. But I'd assume its more of a law of diminishing returns, just like most things. Those are just my top 3 wanted "drivers cars" thankfully I own one of them so I'm happy

EDIT: The way I see it, if we're talking just handling (not outright performance) the fr-s might be 75% of the way to the cayman & elise but overall might be a lot less in overall performance. Is it worth the extra price? I can't say as I haven't owned or driven either of the other 2 I just know I love my FRS and its the best handling car I've driven <40k new

[EAGLE5]

Originally Posted by mwjcyber

Watch YouTube videos of ft86 vs rx-8. RX-8 isn't even close.

I need to scrape my eyes out and cut off my ears. Those are the worst couple of Clarkson wannabes I've ever seen. Drone. Drone. Drone.

If the RX-8 didn't get horrible fuel economy, burn oil like an Iraqi well, and break down at the bark of a seal, I'd be driving one today. Hell of a car. I'd certainly not be driving one of the modified versions, though. The stock setup is sublime.

[zygrene]

I'd say Elise, S2000, and Cayman are probably at the top if we're looking at cars with the highest cornering limits. Maybe if you put the same grippy tires on all of the cars, the FR-S/BRZ would be top 5.

[Anthony]

My dad has a Toro SS5060. That thing turns on a dime and was below $100k.

[nix]

Originally Posted by Suberman

Street car, you can drive a Cayman year round in any weather. Ditto the BRZ. You cannot keep a GT3 on the road in winter and it rides like a race car. The Ferrari 458 isn't a year round driver either, its a weekend car. Neither carries any luggage.

If you want a better handling car buy a Red Bull.

The 430/458 actually have a fair bit of cargo space, and a button for a softer ride quality but they don't really make the 100k cutoff.

[mike the snake]

With proper tires I bet the FRS/BRZ actually would outhandle the Cayman.

[Be-Are-Zee]

Originally Posted by jsimon7777

I need to scrape my eyes out and cut off my ears. Those are the worst couple of Clarkson wannabes I've ever seen. Drone. Drone. Drone.

If the RX-8 didn't get horrible fuel economy, burn oil like an Iraqi well, and break down at the bark of a seal, I'd be driving one today. Hell of a car. I'd certainly not be driving one of the modified versions, though. The stock setup is sublime.

Fuel economy sure but your other issues are more of a perceived issue than a real one.

I added half a quart of oil every 1,000 miles between changes.

I never flooded any of my 8's or had any issues. They never saw a mechanic.

FYI I owned an 07 auto and traded it in for an 09 R3. Lost that in a divorce and bought a 09 GT a year later.

The R3 was the best car I've ever driven and the most fun. The BRZ is a very close 2nd but its not as easy to drive at high speeds nor does it have the amazing whir at 9,000 rpms. I also found the transmission of the 8 to be a little more forgiving and I was never afraid of clutch dumps.

The fuel economy of the BRZ keeps it in the game as a real DD.

[Suberman]

Originally Posted by fatoni

thats not really a definition of handling. according to the bold, my ls430 is a better handler than my miata, ae86, crx and msp. objectively, corvettes have a way of annihilate just about everything south of six figures. not my personal preference but you cant argue numbers.

"Must include" doesn't mean that's all.

Your "is430" (Lexus is that.) doesn't handle at all, in any weather. I assume you mean LS430.