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TylerLieberman · 01-15-2012, 01:24 AM

I stand by my statement saying the FRS base MSRP will not hit 23k here stateside.

Snoopyalien24 · 01-15-2012, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

I stand by my statement saying the FRS base MSRP will not hit 23k here stateside.

SHHHH Toyota and Subaru are watching.............

Say 21k so they feel bad for us and give is 22k

serialk11r · 01-15-2012, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

Also a Z cost 3.6 million yen and have a base price of 30k in America.

But taxes probably are very different between a Z and a cheaper car like this...
WRX is 2.5 million yen according to someone yesterday? It's 26k in the US.

TylerLieberman · 01-15-2012, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

SHHHH Toyota and Subaru are watching.............

Say 21k so they feel bad for us and give is 22k

Lol, if that's the case, I'll say 15k. Then they can break my heart when I see the MSRP is 19k. I guess I'd just have to bite the bullet and buy it, even it it would be a ripoff at that price

^^obviously sarcasm

tranzformer · 01-15-2012, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

Yeah, always hard to do these types of conversions. You can compare yen to usd currencies but the dollar value in each country is different and won't be straight across. Like when they gave the UK price of like 3x,xxx it came out to $5x,xxx USD. Unfortunately, it doesn't work too well.

A better refrence would be finiding a car sold in Japan and the states. Take the price it's sold in japan for in yen and make a comparison to get an estimate for USD

Isn't that what I just said above? Lol

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Originally Posted by tranzformer

It is very difficult to do a direct conversion to make it worthwhile. However the closest use would be to compare cars of similar price in Japan to the price of cars here in the US.

ichitaka05 · 01-15-2012, 02:07 AM

Hm... Is the chassis code DBA or ZN6? Subie ver was easy to read (ZC6)... But why Toyota have 2 different ones?

Mr.Jay · 01-15-2012, 02:13 AM

OP you are my fav new member ever

Buggy51 · 01-15-2012, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

I stand by my statement saying the FRS base MSRP will not hit 23k here stateside.

Well... that depends. Are they trying to maintain a profit on selling a car? or are they just selling it at-cost for the US? Currently they're trying to drum up interest overall about the brand, no? Well, at least Toyota is, no idea for Subaru.

ACHlLLES · 01-15-2012, 03:07 AM

I think we had similar thread.

Fj cruiser in US starts around 27k, while 40k in Japan.

If we go with that rate of conversion, US price would be too low imo.

Korupt56 · 01-15-2012, 03:25 AM

Only time will tell!

AVOturboworld · 01-15-2012, 03:37 AM

Don't bother with direct conversions. JDM Subaru BRZ has similar pricing, and in direct comparison to other Subaru models, the stripper is 2 million yen vs. 2.6 million yen for a stripped out WRX. The closest Impreza in pricing is a 2.0-liter n/a, which is about 19k here in the states vs. the 25k it is in Japan if you did a direct conversion.

So to sum it up, neither Subaru or Toyota is going to use a direct conversion of pricing for the cars. Based on my experience, you are better using a conversion rate of 100 yen to the dollar and going by that.

That said, I don't know if the stripped out version of the Toyota or Subaru will be available initially in the states. That 2 million price range gets you nothing - steelies, 15" brakes, none of the nicer interior trim, and in the case of the Toyota variant, unpainted front/rear bumpers. It's more likely the base model for the states/europe will based around the 2.4 million yen model with cloth seats, air conditioning, alloy wheels and such.

Regards,

Paul Hansen
www.avoturboworld.com
www.facebook.com/avoturboworld

Godzpeed · 01-15-2012, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Hm... Is the chassis code DBA or ZN6? Subie ver was easy to read (ZC6)... But why Toyota have 2 different ones?

DBA code is on pretty much every car.

for the 2012 R35 it's DBA-R35-*****
the 07 one was CBA-R35-*****

So ZN6 is the official Chassis code for the 86

ichitaka05 · 01-15-2012, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Godzpeed

DBA code is on pretty much every car.

for the 2012 R35 it's DBA-R35-*****
the 07 one was CBA-R35-*****

So ZN6 is the official Chassis code for the 86

Ah~ never seen on Subaru cars so, much thanks. So I guess official Totoya chassis code is ZN6 & Subaru is ZC6... Currently ZC6 > ZN6 for the sound (cuz its close to my Impreza).

Hm... Now that put me on 50/50 on which ver I want Toyota..? Or Subaru..?

Slide · 01-15-2012, 04:55 AM

what's the DBA-ZN6 mean!?

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AVOturboworld Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2013 "AVO Orange" FR-S Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 69 Thanked 2,277 Times in 636 Posts Mentioned: 108 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Don't bother with direct conversions. JDM Subaru BRZ has similar pricing, and in direct comparison to other Subaru models, the stripper is 2 million yen vs. 2.6 million yen for a stripped out WRX. The closest Impreza in pricing is a 2.0-liter n/a, which is about 19k here in the states vs. the 25k it is in Japan if you did a direct conversion. So to sum it up, neither Subaru or Toyota is going to use a direct conversion of pricing for the cars. Based on my experience, you are better using a conversion rate of 100 yen to the dollar and going by that. That said, I don't know if the stripped out version of the Toyota or Subaru will be available initially in the states. That 2 million price range gets you nothing - steelies, 15" brakes, none of the nicer interior trim, and in the case of the Toyota variant, unpainted front/rear bumpers. It's more likely the base model for the states/europe will based around the 2.4 million yen model with cloth seats, air conditioning, alloy wheels and such. Regards, Paul Hansen www.avoturboworld.com www.facebook.com/avoturboworld

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