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Old 08-15-2013, 02:33 PM   #435
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Sorry about your car, mate. But this thread has been quite entertaining.

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For the ones who will be like WTF, John does not sell exhausts!!

He is talking about Don from Accelerated Performance.
OH YEAH! sorry. I'll edit
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Old 08-15-2013, 02:37 PM   #437
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Like I said earlier in this thread, car video was posted July 17th, user stated the car was a total loss on July 23rd, John didn't have the "fix" ready until July 29th. Kits were originally released to us (you, CB, me, the rest of the group buy) around June 26th. If the hose fix was in operation, John sat on it from everyone else.

As to the ultimate fate of the OP's car, that's still up in the air - however based on what facts are present, it's likely the outcome was from the issues/failures that have been noted with the first round of the kit failing.

Let me be clear, this isn't anything against you @post_break - your diy was spot on for the hardware provided - the kit lasted 3 weeks on my car in the state it was delivered in before failing. The fact remains however that is does fail, at least a certain percentage of the time so it was not a well engineered design. John would have been better off partnering with someone that focused on the hardware, while he focused on the tune.


So you're saying a car caught fire with this kit on it, and then Visconti released the kit three days later?


If a car caught fire with a kit I made, then I probably wouldn't ship 40 of them out to customers 3 days later.




So he did actually release the original kit knowing it might cause fires. Might have been prudent to delay launch of the kit, if CARS CATCH ON FIRE.
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So you're saying a car caught fire with this kit on it, and then Visconti released the kit three days later?


If a car caught fire with a kit I made, then I probably wouldn't ship 40 of them out to customers 3 days later.




So he did actually release the original kit knowing it might cause fires. Might have been prudent to delay launch of the kit, if CARS CATCH ON FIRE.
The kit was out and you had to use a worm drive clamp on the fuel line. This setup leaked on 7 cars (out of 40's)

After the leak was discovered and after this car burned down (Mind you, the cause of fire of this car is still unknown it might have been the leak but it might have not), John released a revised version of the kit, with a different hose connection.

Customers needed to pay shipping money to get this upgrade (that helped remove the possibility of a fuel leak inside the engine bay) and were given no instructions on how to install them for a few good days...

I think there are still no instructions on how to install the upgraded kit.
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I accept the fact that when modifying my car something can go wrong... but wrong as in "slightly different than expected"... Like not quite as good, better than anticipated, poor customer service.

However, if the car is destroyed. The person who had it (or was working on it) when it was destroyed will be replacing it, or their insurance will or... they will be needing legal representation. That's it.
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This is a pretty enlightening thread...

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The kit was out and you had to use a worm drive clamp on the fuel line. This setup leaked on 7 cars (out of 40's)

After the leak was discovered and after this car burned down (Mind you, the cause of fire of this car is still unknown it might have been the leak but it might have not), John released a revised version of the kit, with a different hose connection.

Customers needed to pay shipping money to get this upgrade (that helped remove the possibility of a fuel leak inside the engine bay) and were given no instructions on how to install them for a few good days...

I think there are still no instructions on how to install the upgraded kit.
Thanks for posting some factual information. I'm one of the people who is having leaking issues with the original kit and purchased one of the updated kits. We are still waiting on instructions, even though this was posted by John over a week ago.

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Everyone will have a email tomorrow with pics and instructions on how to install it. One thing you'll need that's not included is teflon tape

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I think one point that has been kind of missing here is that there is another responsible party here.

Don from Accelerated Performance did the install, so at least they are both partly responsible for the modifications that were done on this car.
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I think one point that has been kind of missing here is that there is another responsible party here.

Don from Accelerated Performance did the install, so at least they are both partly responsible for the modifications that were done on this car.
If what they installed resulted in the failure.
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Thanks for posting some factual information. I'm one of the people who is having leaking issues with the original kit and purchased one of the updated kits. We are still waiting on instructions, even though this was posted by John over a week ago.
I've been talking to Rich and I guess he's finishing it up right now.
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If what they installed resulted in the failure.
Read my post @Toma, I DIDNT say they were responsible for the fire, I said they were responsible for the MODIFICATIONS done to the car.


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I'm so glad I didn't buy Visconti's FF kit when it first came out. Especially since one of the selling points was that it was supposed to be basically a plug-and-play/bolt-on kit. Now in addition to the fuel leak and possible fire issue the fix requires a tubing cutter, something that I'm guessing isn't reversible if you need to return to stock.
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