Engine idle chirping (cricket) noise poll. - Page 185 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Maverick22 · 08-15-2013, 10:02 AM

I had my pump replaced yesterday. There is a Tech bulletin out on it. The crickets are gone now. same tank of gas and all.

DylanFRS · 08-15-2013, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick22

I had my pump replaced yesterday. There is a Tech bulletin out on it. The crickets are gone now. same tank of gas and all.

A lot of people report no crickets for a few hundred miles on the new pump and then they return. You should let us know again within the next 500 miles if they stay away.

absolut-b · 08-15-2013, 11:37 AM

The sound does come from the fuel pump. All you have to go is go back to the dealer and they will replace the pump and some seals which is covered under warranty.

MST Engineer · 08-15-2013, 01:09 PM

I work for Toyota and have access to the tech bulletins so I have been keeping my eye out for updates on this one. They just released an updated one a few weeks ago that found the root cause of the chirping. It has to do with bad seal alignment on the inside of the DI pump that causes the noise. To fix it you have to have the dealer replace the pump but it has to be after a certain manufacture date. I think the date was 4/2013 but I will have to check when I'm at work.

FRS1010 · 08-15-2013, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MST Engineer

I work for Toyota and have access to the tech bulletins so I have been keeping my eye out for updates on this one. They just released an updated one a few weeks ago that found the root cause of the chirping. It has to do with bad seal alignment on the inside of the DI pump that causes the noise. To fix it you have to have the dealer replace the pump but it has to be after a certain manufacture date. I think the date was 4/2013 but I will have to check when I'm at work.

Thats great to hear! When I go in next week for my free oil change I plan on having them do it.

JDM FRS · 08-15-2013, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MST Engineer

I work for Toyota and have access to the tech bulletins so I have been keeping my eye out for updates on this one. They just released an updated one a few weeks ago that found the root cause of the chirping. It has to do with bad seal alignment on the inside of the DI pump that causes the noise. To fix it you have to have the dealer replace the pump but it has to be after a certain manufacture date. I think the date was 4/2013 but I will have to check when I'm at work.

I cant wait to see what you're talkin about!

kahox · 08-15-2013, 01:41 PM

Started to happen after my first oil change 2 days ago. Used oem filter and motul 0w20 ecolite oil @7000 km

omegared19 · 08-15-2013, 02:24 PM

At 7500 miles, I had the fuel pump swapped out under warranty, and the crickets went away. Within the first 500 miles on the new one, the sound was back. I'm hoping they come up with a solution soon

HunterGreene · 08-15-2013, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MST Engineer

I work for Toyota and have access to the tech bulletins so I have been keeping my eye out for updates on this one. They just released an updated one a few weeks ago that found the root cause of the chirping. It has to do with bad seal alignment on the inside of the DI pump that causes the noise. To fix it you have to have the dealer replace the pump but it has to be after a certain manufacture date. I think the date was 4/2013 but I will have to check when I'm at work.

Not to rain on the parade, but this information came out back in April, and people who have been getting the pumps replaced as early as last month are still getting the chirps after a little while.

DylanFRS · 08-15-2013, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by absolut-b

The sound does come from the fuel pump. All you have to go is go back to the dealer and they will replace the pump and some seals which is covered under warranty.

Definitely. And it has been shown to pretty much a 100% success rate that getting your HPFP replaced will make the crickets go away... at least for 100 miles or so...

Demotic · 08-15-2013, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thill

I have been down the lemon law path before in Virginia with VW (car was in the shop more than 30 days within one year of ownership). It is not nearly as you are making out to seem and, again, you would have to prove that the crickets (at least in Minnesota, but most states are similar) were "substantially impairing" your ability to drive the vehicle, or the crickets would have to have "caused the complete failure of the steering or braking system and which is likely to cause death or serious bodily injury".

You can certainly try to go to arbitration for this, but good luck. I would not even waste my time.

I will definitely complain to both my dealer and Subaru America, but expecting to get Toyoya or Subaru to replace your car for something this minor is not being very realistic. Every car I have ever owned has had quirks. If the worst thing this car has is some intermittent crickets I will be happy.

A new car would be useless. All of the cars have this issue in the US (or the potential to have the issue). They all use the same HPFP.

That is Incorrect. I Lemon law'd my 2013 SS (more than 30 days in shop) and most of time it was in the shop it was due to random rattlings from the engine. Chevy started to give me a bot of headache and that's when I had my lawyer send them a letter. They then procceded to honor the lemon law within a week!

Khazzy · 08-15-2013, 08:31 PM

I had the crickets after filling up with 91 octane 10% ethanol in Iowa on my way back home to Omaha. Noticed the crickets when I stopped to use the bathroom and get some water. Ran the tank until it was close to E, no low gas light. Filled up with my usual 91 non Ethanol gas, crickets gone. Now I have not driven 4+ hours at 80-85MPH continuously since then so granted my crickets could not appear until I do that again, but I am sticking by this ethanol in gas issue until I see otherwise personally. I am no mechanic, no engineer, but it worked. Did not have them before I left on my road trip, did not have them when I got to my Dad's in Michigan on 91 non Ethanol gas, and only the last leg when I HAD to fill up with 10% it showed up.

SurfAndSand · 08-15-2013, 08:54 PM

I did half a tank of 92, no-ethanol gas and then the other half 92 10% ethanol. I got crickets.

I'm going to try and run her empty, and then try non-ethanol fuel.

shiro · 08-16-2013, 12:59 PM

I haven't had a chance to read through 100+ pages of form but this is just what I heard from Toyota: The chirping is normal and part of the noise the boxer engine gives off.

I would assess it is because of the design and high compression, if the said comment was true. It's a little annoying but that's what a loud stereo is for :P

View Poll Results: Do you have chirping (cricket) noise during idle once the car is warmed up?
Yes (Please only vote after you have 300 miles or more on the odometer)	3,101	85.22%
No (Please only vote after you have 300 miles or more on the odometer)	538	14.78%
Voters: 3639. You may not vote on this poll

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Is this idle noise normal?	robo_robb	Engine, Exhaust, Transmission	288	01-25-2022 10:40 AM
Squeak noise from engine.	Fish	Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum	52	05-08-2014 02:06 PM
Video of chirping at idle	Julio86	Engine, Exhaust, Transmission	15	02-01-2013 11:37 AM
Starting to get worried - Engine noise	Laika	BRZ First-Gen (2012+) — General Topics	49	07-02-2012 04:45 PM
Idle issue poll/role call	Hawaiian	Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum	8	06-13-2012 01:00 PM

08-15-2013, 11:37 AM	#2579
absolut-b Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Standard Blue Location: Katy, Texas 77450 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The sound does come from the fuel pump. All you have to go is go back to the dealer and they will replace the pump and some seals which is covered under warranty.

08-15-2013, 01:09 PM	#2580
MST Engineer Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: '11 Subaru STI Location: Ann Arbor MI Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I work for Toyota and have access to the tech bulletins so I have been keeping my eye out for updates on this one. They just released an updated one a few weeks ago that found the root cause of the chirping. It has to do with bad seal alignment on the inside of the DI pump that causes the noise. To fix it you have to have the dealer replace the pump but it has to be after a certain manufacture date. I think the date was 4/2013 but I will have to check when I'm at work.

08-15-2013, 01:41 PM	#2583
kahox Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 FRS, 2010 Evo X GSR Location: Toronto Posts: 32 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Started to happen after my first oil change 2 days ago. Used oem filter and motul 0w20 ecolite oil @7000 km

User Name		Remember Me?
Password