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Old 07-31-2013, 09:53 AM   #141
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Old 07-31-2013, 09:58 AM   #142
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:08 AM   #143
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It's something that should be able to be incorporated but depends on the tuner . I'm going to be working with a local tuner to utilize these features
Odd, I know ECUTek had to develop special code for those features that the tuners wouldn't have access to. The tuners have the ability to enable and adjust those features, but not add the functionality all together. That's my understanding, at least.
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:12 AM   #144
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My question is how do most people know how to tune their own car? I may be tech savvy, but I have no idea when it comes to tuning my engine, lol.
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:23 AM   #145
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My question is how do most people know how to tune their own car? I may be tech savvy, but I have no idea when it comes to tuning my engine, lol.
I asked the same in post 20 Matt.
How do we use it to tune our engines without just copying someone elses tune?
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I asked the same in post 20 Matt.
How do we use it to tune our engines without just copying someone elses tune?
You open the rom in TunerPro on your PC to edit it if you want (and know how) to modify the tables. Be careful though, if you don't know what you're doing you could end up with a very expensive mistake.
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:35 AM   #147
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My question is how do most people know how to tune their own car? I may be tech savvy, but I have no idea when it comes to tuning my engine, lol.

For starters, some basic chemistry and physics (first year college level stuff):

http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8...ics-fall-2010/
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/chemistry...nce-fall-2008/

And then some basic automotive specific stuff:

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Engine-Management-Advanced-Greg-Banish/dp/1932494421"]Amazon.com: Engine Management: Advanced Tuning (9781932494426): Greg Banish: Books[/ame]

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Performance-Fuel-Injection-Systems-HP1557/dp/1557885575"]Performance Fuel Injection Systems HP1557: How to Design, Build, Modify, and Tune EFI and ECU Systems.Covers Components, Sensors, Fuel and Ignition ... Tips, Aftermarket ECUs, and EFI Convers: Matt Cramer, Jerry Hoffmann: 9781557885579: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]


This should give you a good basis, and a decent grasp of things to know where you want to go from there. There a lot of good SAE and other academic papers that go into the really advanced topics. You really should sit down and do *a lot* of reading.
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:36 AM   #148
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Learning to tune isnt a cut and dry thing. Alot of guts and experimenting is what it takes in the beginning. Then practice, practice, practice. I have been tuning on the order of 6-7 years now, and have had my hands on most of the big imports. DSM, Evo, mazdaspeed, Subaru, Honda. Then I started expanding from there.... It certainly takes a certain kind of person to really get into this kind of thing. You cant be arrogant in this business as that will most likely end up in making a fatal mistake.

I am a Systems engineer by day, so my professional experience certainly feeds my side business. But there are other aspects to becoming a tuner. Such as business modeling, customer service, etc etc.

There are alot of good books you could read to get your feet wet, but its usually best to leave tuning to the pro's until you have some confidence in your own ability.

Alot of good info on tuning other subarus if you go poke over at the Nasioc, and the same can be said about EVOs on evoms. It will give you and idea of how the ecus work, and what things are actually tweaked. But beyond that, you need a very good understanding on how modern EFI engines operate.
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I really wish I did. Maybe on nights and weekends I can do some reading. I really want to learn more.
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:00 AM   #150
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It's something that should be able to be incorporated but depends on the tuner . I'm going to be working with a local tuner to utilize these features
Those features will require code patches to the rom.
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:19 AM   #151
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All the transient ignition retard tables are already defined. Same with the MAF scaling, injection scaling table, min injector on-time, voltage compensations, etc,.

You will also have launch control and FFS. Right out of the gate

For everybody asking about Racerom features; Rombinhood already addressed it.
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:19 AM   #152
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how much will this be? i dont think anything can be a bigger rip off the ecutek
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:35 AM   #153
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My question is how do most people know how to tune their own car? I may be tech savvy, but I have no idea when it comes to tuning my engine, lol.
i wouldn't recommend trying without prior experience with such things. i'm setting up a service (open sourced, of course) that will allow you to download a map that best fits your vehicles current modifications (presuming people upload theirs). it'll also do a bunch of other cool source-control inspired stuff for the guys who like to share and modify roms.

typically you'd take these 'base' maps and tweak them to suit your vehicle. if you're not comfortable doing that you can pay someone else to. in any case the end result is a tune that is probably a bit cheaper than what's out there now, but more importantly, you own it. in 5 years when something changes, you can make the required changes yourself (or pay anyone you choose to do so). no more being forced to return to the tuner you may or may not even like or be able to get ahold of.
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:42 AM   #154
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i wouldn't recommend trying without prior experience with such things. i'm setting up a service (open sourced, of course) that will allow you to download a map that best fits your vehicles current modifications (presuming people upload theirs). it'll also do a bunch of other cool source-control inspired stuff for the guys who like to share and modify roms.

typically you'd take these 'base' maps and tweak them to suit your vehicle. if you're not comfortable doing that you can pay someone else to. in any case the end result is a tune that is probably a bit cheaper than what's out there now, but more importantly, you own it. in 5 years when something changes, you can make the required changes yourself (or pay anyone you choose to do so). no more being forced to return to the tuner you may or may not even like or be able to get ahold of.
Dude: you're getting the developer in me all giddy!! =D Can we get Git support in that?
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