follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Wheels | Tires | Spacers | Hub -- Sponsored by The Tire Rack

Wheels | Tires | Spacers | Hub -- Sponsored by The Tire Rack Specific topics relating to wheels and tires.

Register and become an FT86Club.com member. You will see fewer ads

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-28-2013, 02:53 PM   #1625
jshadeck
Senior Member
 
jshadeck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Whiteout 6MT
Location: carlisle, pa
Posts: 773
Thanks: 3
Thanked 221 Times in 163 Posts
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
I get where ur coming from on the appearance, im planning to get some aftermarket front fenders that come out 10mm further or something, which would fix the "appearance" of front poke
__________________
jshadeck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2013, 02:55 PM   #1626
86TruenoFRS
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Drives: Rocket Bunny v1 FRS
Location: Warner Robins, Ga
Posts: 287
Thanks: 73
Thanked 100 Times in 60 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jshadeck View Post
Well, if im not mistaken, ur talking about adding the same wheel width to the front and rear, so that wouldnt compensate for the change in f vs r poke at all. On the street im sure u wont notice the diff w the poke ur looking for affecting the handling. I just wanted to mention it.

Attachment 45928Attachment 45929
that good to know! thanks a lot.
86TruenoFRS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2013, 06:44 PM   #1627
Boil
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: CX500 Cafe Bobber
Location: Adrift in the Sea of Middle-aged Morose
Posts: 76
Thanks: 1
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boil View Post
I am thinking of these wheels…

Enkei RPF1 17x9

With these tires…

Nitto NT05 255/40ZR17

The question is the offset, the wheels are available in either a +35 or +45; which would be best for overall fitment…?

The only suspension mods I am looking at (for right now) are Swift lowering springs (either the Sports or the Spec-R, depending on drop & spring rates) & an SPC front camber bolt kit…
Quote:
Originally Posted by ill86 View Post
+35

Reference pic of similar setup- http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...postcount=1585 to see how much poke.

The last few pages of this thread talk a lot about x9 sizing. Check it out and reply if you have any more questions.
Okay, did some reading, here & elsewhere in the sub forum…

So, this is what I am getting from it all…

+35 is gonna poke out about half an inch, unless I get some camber going, which (in my mind) only leads to uneven tire contact patch & wear…?

+45 should not poke out any, but just might be rubbing on suspension components…?

I want to come up with a solution that is flush with the stock fenders (do not want to go wide body), but is not all cambered out… I want my tire contact patches even across the width of the tire…!

This is with whatever the drop is that Swift lowering springs give me…

Someday I would like to totally upgrade the suspension with the full line of Racer X components & a set of Ohlins coil overs; but for now the cost & complexity of setting it all up just right hold me back…
Boil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2013, 06:46 PM   #1628
jshadeck
Senior Member
 
jshadeck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Whiteout 6MT
Location: carlisle, pa
Posts: 773
Thanks: 3
Thanked 221 Times in 163 Posts
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boil View Post
Okay, did some reading, here & elsewhere in the sub forum…

So, this is what I am getting from it all…

+35 is gonna poke out about half an inch, unless I get some camber going, which (in my mind) only leads to uneven tire contact patch & wear…?

+45 should not poke out any, but just might be rubbing on suspension components…?

I want to come up with a solution that is flush with the stock fenders (do not want to go wide body), but is not all cambered out… I want my tire contact patches even across the width of the tire…!

This is with whatever the drop is that Swift lowering springs give me…
So buy the +45 and a set of 5mm spacers in case u rub
__________________
jshadeck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2013, 06:52 PM   #1629
Boil
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: CX500 Cafe Bobber
Location: Adrift in the Sea of Middle-aged Morose
Posts: 76
Thanks: 1
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jshadeck View Post
So buy the +45 and a set of 5mm spacers in case u rub
Then I would probably need the ARP extended studs as well…
Boil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2013, 07:21 PM   #1630
jshadeck
Senior Member
 
jshadeck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Whiteout 6MT
Location: carlisle, pa
Posts: 773
Thanks: 3
Thanked 221 Times in 163 Posts
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boil View Post
Then I would probably need the ARP extended studs as well…
For a 5mm spacer? Nah.
__________________
jshadeck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2013, 11:36 PM   #1631
mike the snake
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Drives: 2013 BRZ
Location: Norcal
Posts: 1,592
Thanks: 1
Thanked 623 Times in 378 Posts
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
I'm planning on getting Enkei Raijins 18x8.5 +45 front and 18x9.5 +45 rear and I plan to get Michelin PSS 245/35/18 front and 265/35/18 rear.

ST coilovers going on the car late this next week, going with 1.5' to 2" drop. Not slammed, but low..

Not planning on running too much camber, as much as the stock perches and camber bolts will give me, I'm hoping for -1 to -1.5.

Anyone run this setup? I've researched heavily, and it seems this all will work, as I've seen people running 265's up front, and it seems 265's will fit on the rear no prob.

The 45 offset I think should be safe at the fender side and the coilovers with smaller diameter springs I think should clear on the inside without issue.

I've been told that the Michelin PSS tires run wide for their size.

Any thoughts?
mike the snake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2013, 01:22 AM   #1632
tinma
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Drives: '13 BRZ
Location: Canada
Posts: 495
Thanks: 479
Thanked 172 Times in 117 Posts
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by djdnz View Post
via pm


Here's my car, with a 18x9 +42, 245/35/18 test fitted in the front - this is poking from the wheel well at stock height by about 5-10mm in the front. In the rear it's probably going to look pretty much flush at stock height.



You are proposing 18x9 +33, 255/35/18 - so picture mine with a meatier tire, and 9mm further out from the wheel well (which it is already 5-10mm out already). Lots of poke in the front.

In order to avoid so much poke on stock suspension, you have a few options.

Stretching the tire is an option I suppose, but the wheel is still poking the exact same amount, its just the tire might make it look a bit closer to the wheel well. It's not going to look great, I don't like the stretched tire look, I really don't like it with stock suspension. Personal preference. My tires are more stretched than I wanted... think its the brand of tire really.

The other option is to add lots of camber. Hard to do with stock suspension. Again at stock height this might look sillier than if it were the same car lowered. But an option none the less. 3 degrees might work.

You might be able to have the backpad of the wheel machined by 10mm. But that's going to cost money to have it done properly, you had better love those wheels because now they're custom and if you ever break/bend a wheel you're going to have to get the same process done to them next time.

The last option, and the best option IMO is to get a different wheel with a higher offset. At 18x9 and stock height, I wouldn't do any more than +42, maybe +40 if you're doing 255/35/18. If you go any higher you will hit the struts/springs. This will still poke, like my picture above, but not as offensively as a +33.

If you are set on those wheels with those tires, either lower it and add a bit of camber, or just deal with lots of poke.
do you have any side profile shots? i really like the way that looks!
tinma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2013, 12:54 PM   #1633
dabocx
Senior Member
 
dabocx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Drives: Scion FRS
Location: United States
Posts: 1,267
Thanks: 564
Thanked 261 Times in 191 Posts
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
So right now I have my 17X8 +32 Work Kais with the stock 215s. They are pretty tucked in and Im looking to go wider. Would 245s or 235s be a better choice for a 8inch wheel?
dabocx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2013, 01:28 PM   #1634
mike the snake
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Drives: 2013 BRZ
Location: Norcal
Posts: 1,592
Thanks: 1
Thanked 623 Times in 378 Posts
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
I'd say yes.
mike the snake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2013, 01:44 PM   #1635
canu_50
Senior Member
 
canu_50's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: Scion fr-s
Location: Terrebonne
Posts: 239
Thanks: 115
Thanked 59 Times in 47 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
235 is the perfect match for 8inch, 245 are going to be a little chubby on the mags
canu_50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2013, 06:01 PM   #1636
Willow
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Drives: Subaru BRZ ltd
Location: Yuma, AZ
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Looking for Size

Honestly, i'm not the best with wheel/tire lyngo and haven't got the patience to scroll through the whole thread. I'm looking to put a bit more rubber on the road in preperation for some FI and other performance upgrades. My goal is to be able to effectivly handle 275-350 WHP. I will not be tracking the car heavily or anything like that, just casual fun with some daily driving inbetween.

I'm thinking 17x8.5 with 255x45x17 rubber. I'd like to have a flush look, but still keep things more performance based than asthetic.

I currently have a stock suspension and do not plan on lowering it.
Willow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2013, 07:20 PM   #1637
Slick
Senior Member
 
Slick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Drives: FR-S Firestorm 6MT
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,881
Thanks: 345
Thanked 1,389 Times in 628 Posts
Mentioned: 137 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Willow View Post
Honestly, i'm not the best with wheel/tire lyngo and haven't got the patience to scroll through the whole thread.
What? No time to wade through 75 pages of info? lol

Quote:
Originally Posted by Willow View Post
I'm looking to put a bit more rubber on the road in preperation for some FI and other performance upgrades. My goal is to be able to effectivly handle 275-350 WHP. I will not be tracking the car heavily or anything like that, just casual fun with some daily driving inbetween.

I'm thinking 17x8.5 with 255x45x17 rubber. I'd like to have a flush look, but still keep things more performance based than asthetic.

I currently have a stock suspension and do not plan on lowering it.
Tried and proven is a 17x9 wheel, with a 245 or 255/40R17. Wheel offset from +35 to +45, although +38 is probably the ideal offset for this size (if you can find it). Lots of guys running 17x9+35 with success. For grip, don't cheap out on quality of the rubber. Lots of good tire choices in a 255/40R17 size.

Edit: Btw, 255/45R17 as you suggested will be too tall a tire, stick with a 40 profile.
Slick is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Slick For This Useful Post:
ill86 (07-31-2013)
Old 07-31-2013, 12:24 AM   #1638
tinma
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Drives: '13 BRZ
Location: Canada
Posts: 495
Thanks: 479
Thanked 172 Times in 117 Posts
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Thinking about pulling the trigger on Enkei Raijin rims but im curious if I will suffer much from this setup?

I am going to stay stock height
Fronts: 18x8 45offset
Rear: 18x9.5 45offset

Is there a chance that I will be rubbing the fenders or the suspension at all?

Thanks!
tinma is offline   Reply With Quote
 

Tags
fitment, flush, offset, rays volk te37's, rims, rotas, size, spacers, width


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Determining the proper width size of the tire CyberFormula Wheels | Tires | Spacers | Hub -- Sponsored by The Tire Rack 49 05-23-2014 09:11 AM
Correct tire width for each wheel width DarrenDriven Wheels | Tires | Spacers | Hub -- Sponsored by The Tire Rack 10 08-16-2012 02:03 PM
TIRE SIZE CALCULATOR White64Goat Wheels | Tires | Spacers | Hub -- Sponsored by The Tire Rack 6 08-15-2012 02:31 AM
Tire Width vs Wheel Width Synack Wheels | Tires | Spacers | Hub -- Sponsored by The Tire Rack 40 08-12-2012 11:21 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.