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Old 01-01-2012, 07:47 AM   #183
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Great analysis on a good lap. Ill add.
- Do oil change and drive some more miles.. If you have not done it. Some horses makes a difference on Nordschleife.
- As pointed out with examples, go for high exit speeds before long straights. This is very important on Nordschleife. Optimizing cornering entry is 2. priority.
- Your line and use of track width and curbs are very good. But at times you can be even more aggressive on the curbs. This is GT5, not real life, so your car will be fine. ...Especially at 2.06-2.10 you can even use more than the red and white curbs for better exit speed.
- At 1.26 your speed were between 194-199km. My replay showed 214-220 trough same corner, and corner entry at 223. You do not have to brake here. Only lift a little..


Your gear changes looks a lot like mine I think. Maybe I too should shift gear sooner/not hold the gear for that long in some cases. Ill try some day. But I max out most gears pretty good. I am losing some torque, but max output is at 7000 rpm. Bhp is at is highest in the 6500-7500 range when looking at the output curve. Id rather stay in the 7400-7550 range than dropping down in the 5900-6400 range.. Ill try to do my average change just a tad sooner in some cases and see if it makes a difference..
Michel, do you sometimes/often shift before seeing the "rpm-bar" getting red?

tnx for tips and advices. i really laughed when you said about curbs i avoided them because i thought they actually slow you down a bit and they can throw you out of balance and off the track ...
also i really didnt even thought about corner exit on long straights are so important ...

tnx again to you and michel
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Old 01-01-2012, 10:32 AM   #184
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Only TWO more days left for these courses!!! Look for a poll for next months track!
The poll for January's track that merlin2111 mentioned:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3068
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Old 01-01-2012, 08:29 PM   #185
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Thanks for this thread merlin.
Good fun posting times..

For all the people that would like do keep driving the GT86 on Nordschleife. I have made a new thread with 8 different leaderboards/challenges on that track.
Including stock, tuned and drift leaderboards.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3091
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Old 01-01-2012, 09:39 PM   #186
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If anyone knows how to transfer ghost files, let me know, because when I export the replays to the xmb and then save it on my thumb drive, I get a folder with a bunch of different files. I would think I'd only need the replay data, but I'm not 100% sure.
Tonight, I googled and found out how to import and export replay files via USB stick. Following instructions at http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=176743, I imported and watched some replays from http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=235888.

To answer lynk26's question, after you export the files, you'll get the following folders:
PS3 > SAVEDATA > BC#S#####-RPL### (with 5 files)
Out of curiosity, I opened the smallest file (PARAM.SFO) with a text editor and it has the course, car, driver, and date in it.

I zipped up that folder tree for my 1:45.647 Laguna Seca ghost run and attached it to this post (because I used OSX, there is also a __MACOSX folder in the zip... you can ignore it). Can someone extract the PS3 folder tree and follow the step in the link above and see if my replay successfully imports?

The naming convention I used:
[car]-[psn_user]-[track]-[date of race yyyymmdd].zip
Also, can you guys that attained fast times at Nurburgring and Tsukuba follow the steps and post yours?
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:32 PM   #187
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Hi !

My time for the Nürburgring-Nordschleife: 8:28.201 (dual-shock)(with oil change)

But one question: are you all driving with the Analog sticks or with the digital-buttons? Cause I can't play with those sticks and wodering how especially Dragonitti can drive soo fast xD Anyway, lots of respect for the fast guys!
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:54 PM   #188
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times for these courses are closed if you would like to keep racing on the nord then hit up RaceR thread. We have a january thread going now for a new track.
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Personally, I'm going to call BS on anyone that ran faster than an 8:20 on the ring. There's no way it can happen with the car 100% stock. I have been doing laps and pushing as hard as I can and I can only muster up about 8:25.5, and I know I'm not the fastest at all, but I do not see 8:18 or anything less than that being possible on a stock setup, and especially on a dual shock. I want to see videos of the laps that are below 8:20 before I even begin to believe them. And it would have to be the data logger laps with the lateral and longitudinal g-forces and the rpm vs speed data on there to prove SH tires and no eninge/trans mods. Even upgrading the flywheel, clutch or driveshaft will be noticed in the graphs. The only thing that would be hard to detect would be an upgraded LSD and the glass and chassis stiffness. And to get times that low, some of those things have to be tampered with. If someone can prove indefinitely that nothing but the completely stock car was used, then I will rest my case and admit I was wrong but until then, as I said, BULLSHIT.
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Personally, I'm going to call BS on anyone that ran faster than an 8:20 on the ring. There's no way it can happen with the car 100% stock. I have been doing laps and pushing as hard as I can and I can only muster up about 8:25.5, and I know I'm not the fastest at all, but I do not see 8:18 or anything less than that being possible on a stock setup, and especially on a dual shock. I want to see videos of the laps that are below 8:20 before I even begin to believe them. And it would have to be the data logger laps with the lateral and longitudinal g-forces and the rpm vs speed data on there to prove SH tires and no eninge/trans mods. Even upgrading the flywheel, clutch or driveshaft will be noticed in the graphs. The only thing that would be hard to detect would be an upgraded LSD and the glass and chassis stiffness. And to get times that low, some of those things have to be tampered with. If someone can prove indefinitely that nothing but the completely stock car was used, then I will rest my case and admit I was wrong but until then, as I said, BULLSHIT.
EAT YOUR WORDS!
In this case I will not even bother with the DS3 excuse..

Ill try to post some evidence (downloadable replays) in my Nordschleife thread to help out the slower guys..and skeptical people like u...
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3091
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Personally, I'm going to call BS on anyone that ran faster than an 8:20 on the ring. There's no way it can happen with the car 100% stock. I have been doing laps and pushing as hard as I can and I can only muster up about 8:25.5, and I know I'm not the fastest at all, but I do not see 8:18 or anything less than that being possible on a stock setup, and especially on a dual shock. I want to see videos of the laps that are below 8:20 before I even begin to believe them. And it would have to be the data logger laps with the lateral and longitudinal g-forces and the rpm vs speed data on there to prove SH tires and no eninge/trans mods. Even upgrading the flywheel, clutch or driveshaft will be noticed in the graphs. The only thing that would be hard to detect would be an upgraded LSD and the glass and chassis stiffness. And to get times that low, some of those things have to be tampered with. If someone can prove indefinitely that nothing but the completely stock car was used, then I will rest my case and admit I was wrong but until then, as I said, BULLSHIT.
When did you became god of GT5? There's a ton of better driver than you, so chill out
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Getting under 8:18 is definitely possible with a stock car.
Here is a time I've done with a complete stock car with an oil change.
This was done with a wheel, but I know that even ds3 drivers are able to get fast times with practice.



I'm pretty sure that I'm not the fastest person ever but I think it can be said that practice makes perfect.
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Old 01-05-2012, 09:27 AM   #193
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Personally, I'm going to call BS on anyone that ran faster than an 8:20 on the ring. There's no way it can happen with the car 100% stock. I have been doing laps and pushing as hard as I can and I can only muster up about 8:25.5, and I know I'm not the fastest at all, but I do not see 8:18 or anything less than that being possible on a stock setup, and especially on a dual shock. I want to see videos of the laps that are below 8:20 before I even begin to believe them. And it would have to be the data logger laps with the lateral and longitudinal g-forces and the rpm vs speed data on there to prove SH tires and no eninge/trans mods. Even upgrading the flywheel, clutch or driveshaft will be noticed in the graphs. The only thing that would be hard to detect would be an upgraded LSD and the glass and chassis stiffness. And to get times that low, some of those things have to be tampered with. If someone can prove indefinitely that nothing but the completely stock car was used, then I will rest my case and admit I was wrong but until then, as I said, BULLSHIT.


at slow guy complaining about being slow
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:56 PM   #194
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Lol I never said I was god, I was just so dumbfounded how someone could get the car around so damn quickly! Like I said if I was proved wrong I would eat my words. Maybe I just had a rant because I posted that after doing lots of laps and not coming up with any better line or driving style to make me faster and I was just angerfied.

I started thinking after I posted it that I sounded like a, in the words of james may, ****.
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