How cheap would the factory ~250hp 86/FRS/BRZ need to be for you to trade in? - Page 4 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

thill · 06-26-2013, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitigir

This is so true. I don't know why people would think that, but there are many other great cars out there.

Porsche is one of those

Great why don't you join a Porsche forum and stay out of the BRZ/FR-S specfic forums if you don't want to talk or hear about the cars.

RurumariGhost · 06-26-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyfrs86

who says it needs to be turbo or supercharged? what if they dropped in a newly developed engine down the road? maybe even increase it to 2.5 liters or something

The fa20 is a brand new engine! give it at least one year on the market before you talk about developing a new one...

thill · 06-26-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RurumariGhost

The fa20 is a brand new engine! give it at least one year on the market before you talk about developing a new one...

Well, I also think the 2.5 will be replaced across most of the Subaru lineup for the 2.0. MPG, MPG, MPG.....

RurumariGhost · 06-26-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

There's no reason to assume that Subaru (or Toyota) wouldn't release a turbocharged model with 300hp (crank) for around $31-32k.

Except for the head subaru engineer saying things like, "we want to keep turbocharging separate. It is for models like the WRX STI.”
here:
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...ting-boss.html

RurumariGhost · 06-26-2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by thill

Well, I also think the 2.5 will be replaced across most of the Subaru lineup for the 2.0. MPG, MPG, MPG.....

I agree, they already said they're putting the fa20 in the next gen wrx

thill · 06-26-2013, 04:27 PM

I really hope that does not apply to a supercharger as well... I would actually prefer a supercharger in this car vs a turbo...

hmong337 · 06-26-2013, 04:36 PM

I hope they never plan to turbocharge it... that would kill the value of my newly purchased frs. Kind of like owning a nonturbo mr2 vs the turbos.

King Tut · 06-26-2013, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GTB/ZR-1

I would have paid an additional $10k ($35k), if the car had the upcoming 300bhp 2.0T & all the powertrain related bits that entails, STI brakes, bigger rims/tires, etc.

Now THAT would be a great little performer & excellent bargain...

This is familiar to me. Where have I seen one of these?

Whitigir · 06-26-2013, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BadMoon

I would buy one. However, it's not going to happen until at least a 2018 version. Even then it's a long shot.

I think people need to appreciate the car for what it is. A well balanced fun to drive rwd sports car.

I did tons of research before I bought the car. I could have gone the more powerful Mustang route, the Camaro route, or hell even a Civic Si that has way more features and was cheaper.

I went with the FRS and never looked back. Why? All those other cars I mentioned are on the roads every day and I can spot one of each during just about every car trip. Even going a mile down the road. I've seen 1 BRZ. The car is original and special. I love it.

LOL ! Soon BRZ and FRS will be flooding the street...even more than Civics. Those Civics fail to keep up.

GTB/ZR-1 · 06-26-2013, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut

This is familiar to me. Where have I seen one of these?

I wonder... lol

Who are you kidding? You're testing the Beta STi/TRD factory version under all of our noses--hiding in plain sight!

Seriously, your car would be the perfect template for a factory Turbo high-performance variant.

hanabie · 06-26-2013, 08:53 PM

lol 250hp! You are really looking into another 35k-40k msrp. There is no way going to be sub 31k msrp. keep dreaming

AE86_Mikko · 06-27-2013, 12:23 AM

Since everyone else is giving their opinion and what not, let me just answer the question that user mit_peid asked... It would have to be $30K maximum... Plain & simple thank you very much...

mit_peid · 06-27-2013, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AE86_Mikko

Since everyone else is giving their opinion and what not, let me just answer the question that user mit_peid asked... It would have to be $30K maximum... Plain & simple thank you very much...

What if A) you didn't own one of the twins yet, therefore B) you wouldn't have to take the hit in depreciation, and C) the super twin will be available in 3 months and they're taking orders now?

Batman · 06-27-2013, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mit_peid

What if A) you didn't own one of the twins yet, therefore B) you wouldn't have to take the hit in depreciation, and C) the super twin will be available in 3 months and they're taking orders now?

If i didn't already own a twin.. very yes. I would place my order and security deposit immediately. But already having mine.. i'll build it up myself

View Poll Results: How affordable does a 250HP OEM twin need to be to trade in your current twin?
Not going to trade in my twin	113	45.75%
$31K MSRP (250hp MT base)	93	37.65%
$33K MSRP (250hp MT base)	27	10.93%
$35K MSRP (250hp MT base)	11	4.45%
$38K MSRP (250hp MT base)	0	0%
$40K MSRP (250hp MT base)	3	1.21%
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06-26-2013, 04:36 PM	#49
hmong337 Emperor JDM Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: '91 MR2 Gen3 3SGTE, '13 FRS Location: Onterrible, Canada Posts: 1,750 Thanks: 3,498 Thanked 909 Times in 495 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	I hope they never plan to turbocharge it... that would kill the value of my newly purchased frs. Kind of like owning a nonturbo mr2 vs the turbos. __________________

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