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Old 06-26-2013, 06:08 AM   #15
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The AFE Takeda claims that with just their intake. 9-10 HP that is.[/QU

but the injen adds 12hp isn't it?
I wouldn't personally chance the injen due to users reporting problems.
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Seems like Injen has quality control issues. I have one and I consider myself lucky to not have any problems. Like many others said the stock airbox is good (I believe up to 200 whp) so a drop in filter is by far the best performance per dollar. That said if you are going for looks Injen is great if you can get one without problems.
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:41 PM   #17
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I love my TRD - the car idles smoother, feels more responsive and sounds better too. 50 state CARB legal, designed to work with the factory tune and no problems with the factory warranty.

But this is just my opinion, I'm sure there are many others.

Edit - Used Injen for sale on here...

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40039
If it was me I would 100% get the TRD for peace of mind on the warranty. That said, if you don't care about the warranty because you are adding more non-TRD mods, then shop around. Perrin stuff seems solid.
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:43 PM   #18
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Seems like Injen has quality control issues. I have one and I consider myself lucky to not have any problems. Like many others said the stock airbox is good (I believe up to 200 whp) so a drop in filter is by far the best performance per dollar. That said if you are going for looks Injen is great if you can get one without problems.
What are the Injen Intake problems that people are having. I bought an Injen SRI from StayCrushing, but haven't put it on yet. So I wanted to find out what the problems are to look for before I put it on.
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Seems like Injen has quality control issues. I have one and I consider myself lucky to not have any problems. Like many others said the stock airbox is good (I believe up to 200 whp) so a drop in filter is by far the best performance per dollar. That said if you are going for looks Injen is great if you can get one without problems.
Hmm.. I find it hard to believe the air filter can get you up to 200whp.. Doesn't a stock FR-S get dynoed around 170whp?
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I would go TRD given the choices.

I however went and bought a $50 shipped silicone tube off Ebay and used it in combination with the Perrin drop in the box filter in the stock airbox. The noise generator has been removed completely.

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Hmm.. I find it hard to believe the air filter can get you up to 200whp.. Doesn't a stock FR-S get dynoed around 170whp?
People have reported bogging, stalling, and CEL's. One member figured out a fix and it basically makes the injen work like the Perrin. The filter sits inside the bumper (requires modification on your already modified intake) versus the black box.

The Injen is sexy when you lift up the hood. I agree to that. As others have posted, if you want piece of mind you can always buy the TRD and have it installed by Toyota.

Me personally I want a quality product and higher gains when I install one. So that's why I want to go with Perrin, AEM, or AFE. After researching this for well over a month I don't feel that you can go wrong with one of those.
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People have reported bogging, stalling, and CEL's. One member figured out a fix and it basically makes the injen work like the Perrin. The filter sits inside the bumper (requires modification on your already modified intake) versus the black box.

The Injen is sexy when you lift up the hood. I agree to that. As others have posted, if you want piece of mind you can always buy the TRD and have it installed by Toyota.

Me personally I want a quality product and higher gains when I install one. So that's why I want to go with Perrin, AEM, or AFE. After researching this for well over a month I don't feel that you can go wrong with one of those.
Accoriding to Perrin's dyno tests their air filter will give you a max 3hp increase in performance:
http://www.perrinperformance.com/brz...s-panel-filter

Would most people notice 3hp difference? Probably not. That said, I will probably get one just because I prefer the design vs a standard paper filter and these are lifetime filters if you take car of them.

And 3hp is still 3hp
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Accoriding to Perrin's dyno tests their air filter will give you a max 3hp increase in performance:
http://www.perrinperformance.com/brz...s-panel-filter

Would most people notice 3hp difference? Probably not. That said, I will probably get one just because I prefer the design vs a standard paper filter and these are lifetime filters if you take car of them.

And 3hp is still 3hp
That's the air filter. I'm talking about their intake. Their intake nets you 5HP and if purchased with their inlet hose will get you another 2 to 4. So lets just say 8 for the whole package. Which is right in line with TRD's cost for theirs. Personally I think I'm going the AFE route. Easier to install and more gain.

http://www.perrinperformance.com/p/2230
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That's the air filter. I'm talking about their intake. Their intake nets you 5HP and if purchased with their inlet hose will get you another 2 to 4. So lets just say 8 for the whole package. Which is right in line with TRD's cost for theirs. Personally I think I'm going the AFE route. Easier to install and more gain.

http://www.perrinperformance.com/p/2230
Well I was responding to the post where the person seem to imply that a air filter would get you up to 200whp. Neither an air filter nor an intake together alone would be enough to get you to 200whp.

I am very interested in the AFE and Perrin stuff, but need to talk to my local Subaru dealer (where I service my car) to see if an AFE or Perrin intake would void my warranty.
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Well I was responding to the post where the person seem to imply that a air filter would get you up to 200whp. Neither an air filter nor an intake together alone would be enough to get you to 200whp.

I am very interested in the AFE and Perrin stuff, but need to talk to my local Subaru dealer (where I service my car) to see if an AFE or Perrin intake would void my warranty.
Oh gottcha. Yeah I question that as well.

I'm pretty sure intake and exhaust will not void your warranty. But it's always good to check with them directly and get it in writing. I do know that they would have to prove that any failure was a direct result of any specific mod.
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Oh gottcha. Yeah I question that as well.

I'm pretty sure intake and exhaust will not void your warranty. But it's always good to check with them directly and get it in writing. I do know that they would have to prove that any failure was a direct result of any specific mod.
I am with you. I have owned tons of cars. The Mazda dealer back in Virginia where I used to get my car serviced was super cool about not letting add-ons void. It helps I bought three cars from him in 8 years

So far my Subaru dealer has been super cool. The GM of the combined Subaru/Nissan dealer was cool enough to show me this:
http://www.chevroletperformance.com/...opo-camaro.jsp

He just got it (they only made 2K) and it is not street legal (it garaged at the dealership with a cover). He used to sell RX-7's (which I owned three of) and we really hit it off. I have been to the dealer three times now and each time he came out of his office to say hello, ask about the BRZ, and talk shop.
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I am with you. I have owned tons of cars. The Mazda dealer back in Virginia where I used to get my car serviced was super cool about not letting add-ons void. It helps I bought three cars from him in 8 years

So far my Subaru dealer has been super cool. The GM of the combined Subaru/Nissan dealer was cool enough to show me this:
http://www.chevroletperformance.com/...opo-camaro.jsp

He just got it (they only made 2K) and it is not street legal (it garaged at the dealership with a cover). He used to sell RX-7's (which I owned three of) and we really hit it off. I have been to the dealer three times now and each time he came out of his office to say hello, ask about the BRZ, and talk shop.
That's awesome to establish a good relationship with a dealer like that. :happy0180:
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I use the AEM intake, and like somoene else mentioned, without a tune, the intake peforms amazingly at the upper end, but falls short down load. Tune is next on my list though.
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