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vgi · 06-25-2013, 10:41 PM

oops, wrong thread

sw20kosh · 06-26-2013, 05:56 PM

Getting 31 mpg on the highway.

Getting 24 mpg in city driving.

Getting 4 mpg when I floor it.

robispec · 06-26-2013, 06:49 PM

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iirc the tuner said the stock map sensor is the same as the one found in a STi

I remembered wrong. he said the stock STi map sensor would retrofit and use the same plug..

robispec · 06-27-2013, 02:55 PM

THREAD JACK

graphs DYNO DYNAMICS dyno
75mm pulley vs 70mm pulley

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Stock car stock fuel vs 70&75 mm pulleys on E-85 fuel

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70mmand 75mm with BOOST

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dsmx17 · 06-27-2013, 03:54 PM

Maybe I'm old fashioned, and I understand dyno plots can help sell products, but does any of the banter really matter untill 1/4 time/speeds come out?

Ya know, race on sunday sell on monday?

SubieNate · 06-27-2013, 03:58 PM

How big a tank of meth would you need to feasibly daily drive it with the meth turned on? Could you get a tank big enough to last through more than one tank of gas?

Also, it looks like you're injecting before the SC. I thought that was bad juju on a PD type supercharger?

Opposed · 06-27-2013, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dsmx17

Maybe I'm old fashioned, and I understand dyno plots can help sell products, but does any of the banter really matter untill 1/4 time/speeds come out?

Ya know, race on sunday sell on monday?

Robispec has posted lots of track times in his threads. I don't think this kit is designed for 1/4 braggin rights. I will most likely go with this kit, but I don't see it doing anything better than mid to high 13's on the base kit. I think this kit is going to be more about "feel" and "driving experience" than anything, as hippie as that sounds...

canu_50 · 06-27-2013, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Adeets

And you honestly believe a company, who's financial security depends on this product selling is actually gonna post their lowest pull?

Lol you clearly know nothing about Innovate.... Let me just put 2 other compagny name that is all in the same groupement.

Wiseco
JE pistons

Believe me, innovate won't go down because of a 200 000$ inventory they have on those supercharger.

dsmx17 · 06-27-2013, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Opposed

Robispec has posted lots of track times in his threads. I don't think this kit is designed for 1/4 braggin rights. I will most likely go with this kit, but I don't see it doing anything better than mid to high 13's on the base kit. I think this kit is going to be more about "feel" and "driving experience" than anything, as hippie as that sounds...

I think you missed the point....

Opposed · 06-27-2013, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dsmx17

I think you missed the point....

I guess I did...It is a forum, and things like that happen. What exactly is the point you are trying to make?

dsmx17 · 06-27-2013, 05:27 PM

That dyno power is somewhat irrelevant, when track times can show a bigger benefit for marketing. Real world power VS bench racing goes along way, and there is more to an ET than just bottom line time/speed, the distance between 60' 330' etc.. can help to illiustrate passing power, and street manners more than a dyno plot. Thats all I meant.

Opposed · 06-27-2013, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmx17

That dyno power is somewhat irrelevant, when track times can show a bigger benefit for marketing. Real world power VS bench racing goes along way, and there is more to an ET than just bottom line time/speed, the distance between 60' 330' etc.. can help to illiustrate passing power, and street manners more than a dyno plot. Thats all I meant.

Got it, thanks for clearing that up for me. And yes, I agree with you.

Calum · 06-27-2013, 05:50 PM

Thanks for restoring my faith in humanity guys.

OrbitalEllipses · 06-27-2013, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Calum

Thanks for restoring my faith in humanity guys.

*Insert news story about genocide, depravity, and general human ugliness here.*

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