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ft_sjo · 06-19-2013, 11:34 AM

Yeah, but you know what, the Borla is apparently doing the right numbers on the dyno. Who cares if the inside of the collector is are pretty as peach?

So far JDL have produced not much.. a customer has put up a graph comparing a stock/gasoline car to a modified e85 car, which just so happened to have a JDL UEL header fitted.

So as it stands, on a proven results level, the Borla is ahead. I hope that changes soon, especially with the amount of cash i've got tied up with JDL!

HRTROB · 06-19-2013, 04:47 PM

Here's a photo of the collector on my Borla UEL header. It's from the first batch (shipped out last March)

kask2_6.0 · 06-19-2013, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by post_break

I'm actually surprised here. I post criticisms, pictures for OP, and get called a retard. I mean just my 2 cents but go fuck yourself am I right? Like saying "just my 2 cents" makes it ok? Whatever.

jamesm · 06-19-2013, 05:20 PM

Is the borla really cheaper than the others? When I priced them it seemed like they were all in the 600-900 range, borla being closer to 900 iirc.

ft_sjo · 06-19-2013, 05:21 PM

5-600 bux for the borla..

DJCarbine · 06-19-2013, 08:54 PM

newest production run of headers
Flanges are flat enough for me, and the collector looks fine to me. No crazy differences in tube diameter like the previous pictures, its not a 1000 dollar header, its exactly what its supposed to be.... a 5-600 dollar UEL

jamesm · 06-19-2013, 10:03 PM

That's the newest 'fixed' version? That's terrible. It looks like they literally hammered it together. Everyone saying its 'only $600' bear in mind that revworks header is $99 more and agency power's is the exact same price. The quality is inexcusable for such a 'big name' company, or anyone else for that matter. The 'it's crap because I paid for crap' argument doesn't excuse it.

BryanGT · 06-19-2013, 10:10 PM

If it holds together and makes good power does anyone really give a damn what the collector welds look like? Clearly Borla stands behind their products and the dyno numbers are there.

I think some of us are being a bit pedantic about shit that doesn't really matter.

post_break · 06-19-2013, 10:11 PM

Can anyone post dynos of all three headers from the same car and dyno?

FR-S Matt · 06-19-2013, 10:38 PM

Better yet, post pictures of the Borla header after a few years or so. I question the longevity of it and I would venture a guess that rust isn't covered in the warranty, only defects.

AlvinT@Borla · 06-20-2013, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

Better yet, post pictures of the Borla header after a few years or so. I question the longevity of it and I would venture a guess that rust isn't covered in the warranty, only defects.

Borla tubing rust? Please share your pics. Thanks in advance Matt.

Alvin

FR-S Matt · 06-20-2013, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlvinT@Borla

Borla tubing rust? Please share your pics. Thanks in advance Matt.

Alvin

DJCarbine · 06-20-2013, 05:21 PM

I must be the only person OK with the welds in the collector merge... yes, it doesn't have a spike... but it looks like its at least pinched and doesn't just use a star weld insert.

Its a workable header that shows proven dyno gains

NoFear99 · 06-20-2013, 05:46 PM

The Borla UEL headers is my best expense so far on my car for the monney involved.
600$ is a very decent price and dont have any torque dip anymore at low RPM.

The sound our car produce with the Borla UEL headers make my radio system totally useless now.

Even if the welds or the collector are not perfect, the header still do what it is suppose to like all the other headers more expensive.

Long Version
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YcsenTDz10"]Scion FR-S inside and outside boxer rumble sounds.(Borla UEL + HKS Front Pipe + Greddy exhaust) - YouTube[/ame]

Short Version

06-19-2013, 08:54 PM	#34
DJCarbine Thupercharged Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: La Grange Park, IL. Posts: 1,501 Thanks: 116 Thanked 751 Times in 439 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	newest production run of headers Flanges are flat enough for me, and the collector looks fine to me. No crazy differences in tube diameter like the previous pictures, its not a 1000 dollar header, its exactly what its supposed to be.... a 5-600 dollar UEL __________________ 2013 FRS Vortech V3 11psi Revworks UEL - PLM Overpipe - MOTIV catted frontpipe - Invidia Q300 2019 Series.Grey STI - Stage1+ SF

06-19-2013, 10:10 PM	#36
BryanGT Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: WRD BRZ Limited Location: Seattle Posts: 82 Thanks: 24 Thanked 81 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If it holds together and makes good power does anyone really give a damn what the collector welds look like? Clearly Borla stands behind their products and the dyno numbers are there. I think some of us are being a bit pedantic about shit that doesn't really matter. Last edited by BryanGT; 06-19-2013 at 11:41 PM. Reason: Grammar

06-20-2013, 05:21 PM	#41
DJCarbine Thupercharged Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: La Grange Park, IL. Posts: 1,501 Thanks: 116 Thanked 751 Times in 439 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I must be the only person OK with the welds in the collector merge... yes, it doesn't have a spike... but it looks like its at least pinched and doesn't just use a star weld insert. Its a workable header that shows proven dyno gains __________________ 2013 FRS Vortech V3 11psi Revworks UEL - PLM Overpipe - MOTIV catted frontpipe - Invidia Q300 2019 Series.Grey STI - Stage1+ SF

06-20-2013, 05:46 PM	#42
NoFear99 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: FR-S Firestorm Location: QC,Canada Posts: 391 Thanks: 121 Thanked 143 Times in 81 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The Borla UEL headers is my best expense so far on my car for the monney involved. 600$ is a very decent price and dont have any torque dip anymore at low RPM. The sound our car produce with the Borla UEL headers make my radio system totally useless now. Even if the welds or the collector are not perfect, the header still do what it is suppose to like all the other headers more expensive. Long Version [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YcsenTDz10"]Scion FR-S inside and outside boxer rumble sounds.(Borla UEL + HKS Front Pipe + Greddy exhaust) - YouTube[/ame] Short Version __________________ - 2013 Scion FR-S Firestorm - 2007 Lotus Exige S 280 Solar Yellow - 2007 Honda CBR 600RR - 2002 Bombardier Legend 800SE Website : http://nofear99.monchar.com

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06-19-2013, 11:34 AM	#29
ft_sjo Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: GT86 Location: The Motherland Posts: 1,398 Thanks: 140 Thanked 473 Times in 271 Posts Mentioned: 22 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah, but you know what, the Borla is apparently doing the right numbers on the dyno. Who cares if the inside of the collector is are pretty as peach? So far JDL have produced not much.. a customer has put up a graph comparing a stock/gasoline car to a modified e85 car, which just so happened to have a JDL UEL header fitted. So as it stands, on a proven results level, the Borla is ahead. I hope that changes soon, especially with the amount of cash i've got tied up with JDL!

06-19-2013, 04:47 PM	#30
HRTROB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: Toyota 86 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 458 Thanks: 144 Thanked 271 Times in 140 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Here's a photo of the collector on my Borla UEL header. It's from the first batch (shipped out last March)

06-19-2013, 05:20 PM	#32
jamesm Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,929 Thanks: 1,166 Thanked 2,293 Times in 1,180 Posts Mentioned: 313 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	Is the borla really cheaper than the others? When I priced them it seemed like they were all in the 600-900 range, borla being closer to 900 iirc.

06-19-2013, 05:21 PM	#33
ft_sjo Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: GT86 Location: The Motherland Posts: 1,398 Thanks: 140 Thanked 473 Times in 271 Posts Mentioned: 22 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	5-600 bux for the borla..

06-19-2013, 10:03 PM	#35
jamesm Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,929 Thanks: 1,166 Thanked 2,293 Times in 1,180 Posts Mentioned: 313 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	That's the newest 'fixed' version? That's terrible. It looks like they literally hammered it together. Everyone saying its 'only $600' bear in mind that revworks header is $99 more and agency power's is the exact same price. The quality is inexcusable for such a 'big name' company, or anyone else for that matter. The 'it's crap because I paid for crap' argument doesn't excuse it.

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